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Gazz · 05-09-2008, 11:12 AM

The guy makes a few good points and way more errors in this poorly written article. Maybe someone should explain him the difference between a rant on a forum and an actual article in which you do not generalise people in a flock. Anyways, here's my point of view.

First off, Blu ray isn't just Sony. Using google and doing a tiny little bit of research and effort would help aid that basic principle of journalism. The amazing thing about the internet is that people start to assume things are correct if it's on a "credited" website says so without calling the actual company's involved and letting some organisation doing independent research. Then again, being lazy and insulting people is way more fun if you work for a crappy website like the Inquirer.

It's amazing how this guy relates dropping blu ray sales to the quality of BD and not the poor state of the American economy. Now lets discuss DRM, DRM sucks balls if you want to play it on a pc. So much is for sure. However, this guy blames drm on it's original format and drm is not troubling at all when played on the players they are intended for. You simply can't compare it's effect to drm on downloadable mp3's or on pc game discs, because they have very different functions. All in all, I hate DRM but you can't really complain if you own a bd player and the original medium. It's like buying a house, put in a front door with a lock and then complaining you have to open that lock with a key. The analysis is so flawed it's not even entertaining any more.

About the money you pay for a movie. Paying a lot more for something that's marginally better is something we do everyday. I have a 1.8 liter engine in my car which is marginally better then the 1.6 in the same model and makes no sense since I generally take my bike to work and prefer motorcycles to drive for the rest of the time. Still I payed 6.000 Euro more for that model and why.... Even I don't know. Most movies are piss poor and not even worth my time if they were free, but many seem to disagree with me. Even to that extent that they built a entire industry around it. The movie industry they call it I believe and it's filled with poorly acting celebrity's who earn millions. If people want to be fans of them it's fine by me and if they want to enjoy the matrix for example on 7.1 audio with hd images I wish them the best. The difference between an upsacled dvd and a blu ray disc afterall is pretty big and can only not be noticed by people who whine about the prices of everything and are apperantly are to cheap to buy proper glasses.

Then the fellow continues to trash drm again. Something I agree with, but for some reason he only seems to do this to encourage piracy on blu ray. Not for any journalistic reason. He never points people to simply upscaling dvd's which are good enough in his view, but points them to reasons to get the movie for free. Kinda dubious.

The he goes and blames Sony for making their products updatable. Something a few (absolutely not all) manufacturers neglected to do with their bd players. His reasoning makes no sense. It's like blaming the wright brothers (flying pioneers) for all airline crashes after that. Manufacturers are simply responsible for their own product and blaming another for it is just poor vision.

Also, you do have blu ray players under 300 dollars. Hell, you can get them for a 100 and put them in your pc and that little black box he is staring at, that thing called a monitor is more then able to display hd images. Again something he failed to mention or more likely didn't even know because he hardly did any research if at all. If he did do so, he probably would have also known that the biggest blu ray disc can hold up to 500 gb and will be produced soon smashing his 300 gb hdd argument into the ground.

Only good point in his article is the way he points out drm as something terrible. Too bad he points to Slysoft as an excellent company for cracking their security, because company's like Slysoft who make large scale piracy possible with simple burning programs are basicly the reason we have drm in the first place.

05-09-2008, 11:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
Gazz Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Boobville Posts: 2,754 Hellbux: 102,789	The guy makes a few good points and way more errors in this poorly written article. Maybe someone should explain him the difference between a rant on a forum and an actual article in which you do not generalise people in a flock. Anyways, here's my point of view. First off, Blu ray isn't just Sony. Using google and doing a tiny little bit of research and effort would help aid that basic principle of journalism. The amazing thing about the internet is that people start to assume things are correct if it's on a "credited" website says so without calling the actual company's involved and letting some organisation doing independent research. Then again, being lazy and insulting people is way more fun if you work for a crappy website like the Inquirer. It's amazing how this guy relates dropping blu ray sales to the quality of BD and not the poor state of the American economy. Now lets discuss DRM, DRM sucks balls if you want to play it on a pc. So much is for sure. However, this guy blames drm on it's original format and drm is not troubling at all when played on the players they are intended for. You simply can't compare it's effect to drm on downloadable mp3's or on pc game discs, because they have very different functions. All in all, I hate DRM but you can't really complain if you own a bd player and the original medium. It's like buying a house, put in a front door with a lock and then complaining you have to open that lock with a key. The analysis is so flawed it's not even entertaining any more. About the money you pay for a movie. Paying a lot more for something that's marginally better is something we do everyday. I have a 1.8 liter engine in my car which is marginally better then the 1.6 in the same model and makes no sense since I generally take my bike to work and prefer motorcycles to drive for the rest of the time. Still I payed 6.000 Euro more for that model and why.... Even I don't know. Most movies are piss poor and not even worth my time if they were free, but many seem to disagree with me. Even to that extent that they built a entire industry around it. The movie industry they call it I believe and it's filled with poorly acting celebrity's who earn millions. If people want to be fans of them it's fine by me and if they want to enjoy the matrix for example on 7.1 audio with hd images I wish them the best. The difference between an upsacled dvd and a blu ray disc afterall is pretty big and can only not be noticed by people who whine about the prices of everything and are apperantly are to cheap to buy proper glasses. Then the fellow continues to trash drm again. Something I agree with, but for some reason he only seems to do this to encourage piracy on blu ray. Not for any journalistic reason. He never points people to simply upscaling dvd's which are good enough in his view, but points them to reasons to get the movie for free. Kinda dubious. The he goes and blames Sony for making their products updatable. Something a few (absolutely not all) manufacturers neglected to do with their bd players. His reasoning makes no sense. It's like blaming the wright brothers (flying pioneers) for all airline crashes after that. Manufacturers are simply responsible for their own product and blaming another for it is just poor vision. Also, you do have blu ray players under 300 dollars. Hell, you can get them for a 100 and put them in your pc and that little black box he is staring at, that thing called a monitor is more then able to display hd images. Again something he failed to mention or more likely didn't even know because he hardly did any research if at all. If he did do so, he probably would have also known that the biggest blu ray disc can hold up to 500 gb and will be produced soon smashing his 300 gb hdd argument into the ground. Only good point in his article is the way he points out drm as something terrible. Too bad he points to Slysoft as an excellent company for cracking their security, because company's like Slysoft who make large scale piracy possible with simple burning programs are basicly the reason we have drm in the first place. __________________ Gazz is a sexgod - Pamela A. Nothing feels like Gazz - Paris H. After the amazing Gazz, I even started believing in Aliens being our gods - Katie H. I have never seen a bigger one than Gazz's - Jenna J. Last edited by Gazz : 05-09-2008 at 12:15 PM.