Anti-bush !

[mr. evil]

http://www.ericblumrich.com/idiot.html



I laughed so hard

[Greywolf]

I liked the "Don't hate us because we are Americans. Hate our Government" part best :thumbup:

[Jdub22]

I always liked NOFX but that is a bunch of shit right there. that is the most immature video i've seen in a long time. you guys are losers you prbably like Al Gore go suck his dick then you cock sucker bitches. you guys are the real ass holes.

[Jdub22]

IF YOU DON'T LIKE YOUR PRESIDENT, GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA YOU PEICES OF SHIT!!!

:furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:

[Nxs]

I am all for bush! :D

[Jdub22]

Nxs, you rock. We are a lot alike.

[Nxs]

This is a democracy dammit! So ya dont like the Pres or the war, who gives a shit! Tis already done! Support your country dammit! We are the best nation in the world and to stay that way we can't have retards pissing and moaning over every little thing that someone thinks is wrong :D

[Dennis S.]

Originally posted by Nxs@Sep 16 2003, 10:21 PM
This is a democracy dammit! So ya dont like the Pres or the war, who gives a shit! Tis already done! Support your country dammit! We are the best nation in the world and to stay that way we can't have retards pissing and moaning over every little thing that someone thinks is wrong :D
Nxs, that's one of the definitions of DEMOCRACY - free speech. People don't have to shut up if they don't like the president ;)

[Nxs]

I agree! I can deal with free speech, at the same time though, the USA is the most powerful nation in the world for a reason! There are times that we should trust the people we elect to run the country! :D

[Jdub22]

I'm with Nxs, as long as we got free speech.... f*ck the whiners, go download Primer 55 - The Big f**k You that song is about what I'm gonna do to you whiners when I get my hands on you.
HERE I COME, HERE I COME, OUT OF THE BLUE, LITTLE BITCH BOY WITH THE BIG F*CK YOU!
TALK ENOUGH SH*T, GONNA SEE WHAT THE F*** I DO!

man that song is tiite

[Jdub22]

I'm not out to get banned from the forums for foul language, but this is the Kindergarten forums so I thought it was okay..I don't swear in other forums, but if I shouldn't in here also, just say so.

[Nxs]

Kindergarten is damn near legal for anyting :D

[Jdub22]

By the way, we don't even have free speech, I can't say I hate gays and homosexuals and lesbians. But some gothic Satan worshipper can parade around in their black clothes and shit. it's so stupid, cuz people are like "accept them" well it's a free country, and I have freedom of my own opinion and according to my religion, being gay and a homo is wrong and should not in any way be acceptable.

[Dennis S.]

Originally posted by Jdub22@Sep 16 2003, 11:12 PM
By the way, we don't even have free speech, I can't say I hate gays and homosexuals and lesbians. But some gothic Satan worshipper can parade around in their black clothes and shit. it's so stupid, cuz people are like "accept them" well it's a free country, and I have freedom of my own opinion and according to my religion, being gay and a homo is wrong and should not in any way be acceptable.
Same here in Canada. And they're about to legalize gay marriages... Altho I don't really care , butI find it disgusting. Although if they DO let them adopt kids, I'll start some harsh homo bashing. ;)

[Jdub22]

Right on, man I can't stand homos. They should all be tricked into getting onto a big ship and sent off into the ocean to die.

[Nxs]

I agree! Gays do not goto Heaven, however, I am not rude to them in the least :D

[Jdub22]

I would kick some guy's ass if he tried to hit on me. Even if I got my ass kicked, I'd try to get a few good hits in on him because it's worth it to me.

[Nxs]

Fighting is not my style! I dont care who hits on me, fighting is last resort. Gays do not pose a threat to me at all! And they can decorate :D

[LoTuS]

so full of hate today!

[Mr Beef]

Originally posted by Nxs@Sep 17 2003, 04:26 AM
I agree! Gays do not goto Heaven, however, I am not rude to them in the least :D
You right, they don't go to heaven, they go to FRANCE!

[Fly Guy]

Originally posted by Nxs@Sep 17 2003, 03:21 AM
This is a democracy dammit! So ya dont like the Pres or the war, who gives a shit! Tis already done! Support your country dammit! We are the best nation in the world and to stay that way we can't have retards pissing and moaning over every little thing that someone thinks is wrong :D
Every little thing? Declaring war on other countries for no reason is not a "little thing".

Besides, you cant always trust the people running the country. It's not like it hasnt gone wrong with such things before...aka Germany, 1940. Dont be so blindly patriotic people... think for yourself sometime. :thumbup:

[Greywolf]

Originally posted by Nxs@Sep 17 2003, 03:21 AM
This is a democracy dammit! So ya dont like the Pres or the war, who gives a shit! Tis already done! Support your country dammit! We are the best nation in the world and to stay that way we can't have retards pissing and moaning over every little thing that someone thinks is wrong :D
Although I'm pretty sure someone posted this before, check it out (http://www.ericblumrich.com/pl_lo.html)

nxs, let's see how you'd feel about war if someone nuked YOUR ass :thumbdown:

[Ah.. the power of lead]

Yay! Political debate!

All I know is a trillion dollars in tax cuts isn't gonna pay for itself.


By the way depleted uranium is a terrible mistake on the part of the military.

[Greywolf]

^^^
Yeah, give us pure old-fashioned cancerogenic lead :lol:

[Bucky]

Originally posted by Ah.. the power of lead@Sep 17 2003, 05:41 AM
Yay! Political debate!

All I know is a trillion dollars in tax cuts isn't gonna pay for itself.


By the way depleted uranium is a terrible mistake on the part of the military.
What's the mistake?

It's a terrific weapon for killing the enemy.

[Greywolf]

Originally posted by Bucky+Sep 17 2003, 10:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bucky @ Sep 17 2003, 10:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Ah.. the power of lead@Sep 17 2003, 05:41 AM
Yay&#33; Political debate&#33;

All I know is a trillion dollars in tax cuts isn&#39;t gonna pay for itself.


By the way depleted uranium is a terrible mistake on the part of the military.
What&#39;s the mistake?

It&#39;s a terrific weapon for killing the enemy. [/b][/quote]
Now is that your son-in-law talking that I hear?

If I had a choice of two bullets to put in my sling one made of stone and the other one made of plutonium, you can be sure I&#39;d kill you with the stone one.

No need to make your grand-grand-grand children suffer too, right?

What&#39;s the scariest of all, NATO millitary irradiate their own troopers, now, where&#39;s the point in doing that? :suicide:

[hiv]

now that yankees are back to bed, time to put some good sense in this topic :)

I liked the movie a lot, anyone up for a Berlusconi version please? :)

[Dirt_pridE]

Originally posted by Jdub22@Sep 17 2003, 04:08 AM
HERE I COME, HERE I COME, OUT OF THE BLUE, LITTLE BITCH BOY WITH THE BIG F*CK YOU&#33;
TALK ENOUGH SH*T, GONNA SEE WHAT THE F*** I DO&#33;

I have freedom of my own opinion and according to my religion, being gay and a homo is wrong and should not in any way be acceptable.
Religious and swearing.... LOL

[jienn]

i feel sorry for people who actually express their hate against some group of people.

[Bucky]

Originally posted by Greywolf+Sep 17 2003, 06:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Greywolf @ Sep 17 2003, 06:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Bucky@Sep 17 2003, 10:10 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Ah.. the power of lead@Sep 17 2003, 05:41 AM
Yay&#33; Political debate&#33;

All I know is a trillion dollars in tax cuts isn&#39;t gonna pay for itself.


By the way depleted uranium is a terrible mistake on the part of the military.
What&#39;s the mistake?

It&#39;s a terrific weapon for killing the enemy.
Now is that your son-in-law talking that I hear?

If I had a choice of two bullets to put in my sling one made of stone and the other one made of plutonium, you can be sure I&#39;d kill you with the stone one.

No need to make your grand-grand-grand children suffer too, right?

What&#39;s the scariest of all, NATO millitary irradiate their own troopers, now, where&#39;s the point in doing that? :suicide: [/b][/quote]
Irrelevant.

DU rounds are used in anti-tank role. They are not used to shoot troops. I have yet to see any evidence other than media hysteria that DU rounds actually irradiate anybody.

They are, in fact DEPLETED.

Besides, we are talking relative danger here.
Let&#39;s say for the sake of argument that DU rounds dose me with low intensity radiation, but are in fact very, very dangerous to the enemy. Indeed, they have a history of one shot, one kill.

As opposed to that we have conventional anti-tank rounds which pose no direct risk to me, but may take several hits to put a tank out of action.

With that in mind, which round is safer for me to shoot at you? The one that doesn&#39;t give you a chance to shoot back (and MIGHT give me some kind of cancer in 15 years) or the round that I have to shoot several times and risk you returning fire, which can be very deadly very quickly.

The same argument can be made for flying helicopters in combat. To stay alive, you have to fly very, very low. Flying very low in helicopters eliminates the chance to recover from a lost main rotor (a maneuver called auto-rotating). So, if you lose power to your main rotor, you are going to crash, no chance of a controlled landing.

... or you can fly at about 150 feet up in a nice slow chopper and let every moron with a slingshot shoot at you. Which way is safer?

[Horney]

Erm, hey. I&#39;d just like to say i&#39;m english and i think both Bush and Blair were wrong, that video is right and also, i hate all americans unless you can actually show me you are useful for anything&#33;

Oh, and don&#39;t forget you dumbass bush-following retards, without England (maybe not the most powerful, but the best nation in the world) You would not of been founded and populated&#33;

^^^^^^^^^ What i said up there is wrong, i hate anybody who likes bush, dumb patriots and this time of war.

No matter what it says on the TV, War is still going on out there, people are dying and it seems to be more US troops are dying against the protesters (Civilians) than got killed against the Iraqi troops which should, in theory, be more skilled and better equipped than peasants throwing stones&#33;

Sheesh, theres also the fact about the trigger-happy gun-hoe american troops that are blind to the fact that English are different to Iraqis, you know the ones i talk about, the ones that fired a missile at a British pilot.

Anyway that&#39;s all i have to say, and don&#39;t forget Bush-followers, i hate you all and if i wasn&#39;t 14.... I&#39;d kill you&#33;&#33; :thumbdown:

[Dirt_pridE]

We&#39;d kill you, when u were near enough.....

[Syanide]

Originally posted by Horney@Sep 17 2003, 05:57 PM
Anyway that&#39;s all i have to say, and don&#39;t forget Bush-followers, i hate you all and if i wasn&#39;t 14.... I&#39;d kill you&#33;&#33; :thumbdown:
Do some reading. Little Adolph Hitler

[hiv]

Originally posted by Bucky+Sep 17 2003, 04:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bucky @ Sep 17 2003, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Greywolf@Sep 17 2003, 06:17 AM

Originally posted by -Bucky@Sep 17 2003, 10:10 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Ah.. the power of lead@Sep 17 2003, 05:41 AM
Yay&#33; Political debate&#33;

All I know is a trillion dollars in tax cuts isn&#39;t gonna pay for itself.


By the way depleted uranium is a terrible mistake on the part of the military.
What&#39;s the mistake?

It&#39;s a terrific weapon for killing the enemy.
Now is that your son-in-law talking that I hear?

If I had a choice of two bullets to put in my sling one made of stone and the other one made of plutonium, you can be sure I&#39;d kill you with the stone one.

No need to make your grand-grand-grand children suffer too, right?

What&#39;s the scariest of all, NATO millitary irradiate their own troopers, now, where&#39;s the point in doing that? :suicide:
Irrelevant.

DU rounds are used in anti-tank role. They are not used to shoot troops. I have yet to see any evidence other than media hysteria that DU rounds actually irradiate anybody.

They are, in fact DEPLETED.

Besides, we are talking relative danger here.
Let&#39;s say for the sake of argument that DU rounds dose me with low intensity radiation, but are in fact very, very dangerous to the enemy. Indeed, they have a history of one shot, one kill.

As opposed to that we have conventional anti-tank rounds which pose no direct risk to me, but may take several hits to put a tank out of action.

With that in mind, which round is safer for me to shoot at you? The one that doesn&#39;t give you a chance to shoot back (and MIGHT give me some kind of cancer in 15 years) or the round that I have to shoot several times and risk you returning fire, which can be very deadly very quickly.

The same argument can be made for flying helicopters in combat. To stay alive, you have to fly very, very low. Flying very low in helicopters eliminates the chance to recover from a lost main rotor (a maneuver called auto-rotating). So, if you lose power to your main rotor, you are going to crash, no chance of a controlled landing.

... or you can fly at about 150 feet up in a nice slow chopper and let every moron with a slingshot shoot at you. Which way is safer? [/b][/quote]
errr, where are Saddam&#39;s tanks?

would you sleep close to thousands of those like they made your brothers do for months?

it is no media hysteria when you have percentage rising in months (not 15 years)

anyway this is a kindergaarden and saying they are using shitty weapons for war is stupid, as there would be no war at all first place.

And then about radiation, let say "hiroshima" or "nagasaki" rather than serbia or iraq, no (at least there was no Bush president back then).

[Bucky]

Originally posted by hiv@Sep 17 2003, 01:24 PM
nd then about radiation, let say "hiroshima" or "nagasaki" rather than serbia or iraq, no (at least there was no Bush president back then).
Ok, let&#39;s say Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Iraq and Serbia all in the same sentence. What do they have in common?

They all refused to stand down when the US said ENOUGH&#33;

It&#39;s a simple equation, really:

Don&#39;t want to worry about radiation in your country? Don&#39;t be an aggressor against the US.

Call it Darwinism in action. If a country is stupid enough to piss off the biggest, baddest kid on the block, then they are too stupid to occupy the gene pool anyway.

[malganis prime]

I am glad that america is in Iraq it might sort them out once and for all. But i do think ameria is in danger of another terrorist attack. The american army is going to have to seriously rething its stratigy because the cant deal with urban conflict with terrorists.

[hiv]

Originally posted by Bucky+Sep 17 2003, 05:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bucky @ Sep 17 2003, 05:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--hiv@Sep 17 2003, 01:24 PM
nd then about radiation, let say "hiroshima" or "nagasaki" rather than serbia or iraq, no (at least there was no Bush president back then).
Ok, let&#39;s say Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Iraq and Serbia all in the same sentence. What do they have in common?

They all refused to stand down when the US said ENOUGH&#33;

It&#39;s a simple equation, really:

Don&#39;t want to worry about radiation in your country? Don&#39;t be an aggressor against the US.

Call it Darwinism in action. If a country is stupid enough to piss off the biggest, baddest kid on the block, then they are too stupid to occupy the gene pool anyway. [/b][/quote]
in common they have only DEATH, nothing else

and hmmm, I didn&#39;t notice serbians or iraqi invading north america (well same for japanese after all, but I&#39;m not gonna take japanese side, they have been colonialist animals for too long).

[Lestat]

War always meant death, it has been around since man has been around.

And we are invaded. Ummm Al-Qaeda operatives?
We still have issues with aliens easily obtaining identification and access to areas that could threaten security.

[Dennis S.]

Originally posted by Bucky+Sep 17 2003, 12:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bucky @ Sep 17 2003, 12:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--hiv@Sep 17 2003, 01:24 PM
nd then about radiation, let say "hiroshima" or "nagasaki" rather than serbia or iraq, no (at least there was no Bush president back then).
Ok, let&#39;s say Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Iraq and Serbia all in the same sentence. What do they have in common?

They all refused to stand down when the US said ENOUGH&#33;

It&#39;s a simple equation, really:

Don&#39;t want to worry about radiation in your country? Don&#39;t be an aggressor against the US.

Call it Darwinism in action. If a country is stupid enough to piss off the biggest, baddest kid on the block, then they are too stupid to occupy the gene pool anyway. [/b][/quote]
Bucky, you, as well as your government still has to give any sort of proof of Iraq posing a danger to USA or having connections with 9/11 OR Al Qaeda. As a matter of fact Condoliza Rize said that there was no connection to 9/11, while Colin Powell said that there was no connection with Al Qaeda, and while Hans Blix (yesterday, in an interview to some Swedish newspaper) said he believes that most WMDs were destroyed by Iraqis 10 yars ago, like they said they did. That puts you damn out of luck declaring Iraq an agressor or posing ANY thread to US security - after all it&#39;s your officials that said that, not me. Ooooh, lookie here, Iraq is invading USA ON CAMELS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; RUUUUN&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;1111

Can&#39;t say the same thing about Serbia, as that whole thing was a joke from start to end. Serbia an agressor to the US?&#33; Yet another good joke there :thumbup: Some ppl on those forums really have a cool sense of humor :)

There&#39;s only one aggressor, the one that invades countries because they don&#39;t want to bow down to it, kills women and children and drops radiation on civilians. Guess who it is. ;)

[Dennis S.]

Originally posted by Bucky+Sep 17 2003, 05:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bucky @ Sep 17 2003, 05:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Ah.. the power of lead@Sep 17 2003, 05:41 AM
Yay&#33; Political debate&#33;

All I know is a trillion dollars in tax cuts isn&#39;t gonna pay for itself.


By the way depleted uranium is a terrible mistake on the part of the military.
What&#39;s the mistake?

It&#39;s a terrific weapon for killing the enemy. [/b][/quote]
You&#39;ve seen the photos of deformed children that were born after this &#39;terrific weapon&#39; was used. If that is your idea of the &#39;enemy&#39;, I really wish I didn&#39;t know you. Anyone that can find it in himself to justify those atrocities is morally or mentally sick.

Your granddaughter was born recently. I wonder what were your feelings if she was born like that? Ummmm... I wonder. But of course, as long as it doesn&#39;t hit your family or your country, it&#39;s not a big deal, right? They&#39;re all the enemy. Shame on you Bucky, and everyone else that thinks the same way.

I know that my words won&#39;t influence anyone supporting using radiation, as all of you are already corrupted. And children will still be considered enemy, and depleted uranium will still be used. Being unable to change any of that sometimes makes me wish wish I wasn&#39;t born at all to witness all this. :thumbdown:

[phobos77]

Originally posted by Dennis S.+Sep 17 2003, 07:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dennis S. @ Sep 17 2003, 07:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Bucky@Sep 17 2003, 12:49 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--hiv@Sep 17 2003, 01:24 PM
nd then about radiation, let say "hiroshima" or "nagasaki" rather than serbia or iraq, no (at least there was no Bush president back then).
Ok, let&#39;s say Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Iraq and Serbia all in the same sentence. What do they have in common?

They all refused to stand down when the US said ENOUGH&#33;

It&#39;s a simple equation, really:

Don&#39;t want to worry about radiation in your country? Don&#39;t be an aggressor against the US.

Call it Darwinism in action. If a country is stupid enough to piss off the biggest, baddest kid on the block, then they are too stupid to occupy the gene pool anyway.
Bucky, you, as well as your government still has to give any sort of proof of Iraq posing a danger to USA or having connections with 9/11 OR Al Qaeda. As a matter of fact Condoliza Rize said that there was no connection to 9/11, while Colin Powell said that there was no connection with Al Qaeda, and while Hans Blix (yesterday, in an interview to some Swedish newspaper) said he believes that most WMDs were destroyed by Iraqis 10 yars ago, like they said they did. That puts you damn out of luck declaring Iraq an agressor or posing ANY thread to US security - after all it&#39;s your officials that said that, not me. Ooooh, lookie here, Iraq is invading USA ON CAMELS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; RUUUUN&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;1111

Can&#39;t say the same thing about Serbia, as that whole thing was a joke from start to end. Serbia an agressor to the US?&#33; Yet another good joke there :thumbup: Some ppl on those forums really have a cool sense of humor :)

There&#39;s only one aggressor, the one that invades countries because they don&#39;t want to bow down to it, kills women and children and drops radiation on civilians. Guess who it is. ;) [/b][/quote]
Who cares whether Iraq has a connection with Al-qaeda-there all f**king terrorists&#33; and they all equally deserve the same punishement&#33;

[Dennis S.]

Originally posted by phobos77+Sep 17 2003, 02:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (phobos77 @ Sep 17 2003, 02:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Dennis S.@Sep 17 2003, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by -Bucky@Sep 17 2003, 12:49 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--hiv@Sep 17 2003, 01:24 PM
nd then about radiation, let say "hiroshima" or "nagasaki" rather than serbia or iraq, no (at least there was no Bush president back then).
Ok, let&#39;s say Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Iraq and Serbia all in the same sentence. What do they have in common?

They all refused to stand down when the US said ENOUGH&#33;

It&#39;s a simple equation, really:

Don&#39;t want to worry about radiation in your country? Don&#39;t be an aggressor against the US.

Call it Darwinism in action. If a country is stupid enough to piss off the biggest, baddest kid on the block, then they are too stupid to occupy the gene pool anyway.
Bucky, you, as well as your government still has to give any sort of proof of Iraq posing a danger to USA or having connections with 9/11 OR Al Qaeda. As a matter of fact Condoliza Rize said that there was no connection to 9/11, while Colin Powell said that there was no connection with Al Qaeda, and while Hans Blix (yesterday, in an interview to some Swedish newspaper) said he believes that most WMDs were destroyed by Iraqis 10 yars ago, like they said they did. That puts you damn out of luck declaring Iraq an agressor or posing ANY thread to US security - after all it&#39;s your officials that said that, not me. Ooooh, lookie here, Iraq is invading USA ON CAMELS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; RUUUUN&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;1111

Can&#39;t say the same thing about Serbia, as that whole thing was a joke from start to end. Serbia an agressor to the US?&#33; Yet another good joke there :thumbup: Some ppl on those forums really have a cool sense of humor :)

There&#39;s only one aggressor, the one that invades countries because they don&#39;t want to bow down to it, kills women and children and drops radiation on civilians. Guess who it is. ;)
Who cares whether Iraq has a connection with Al-qaeda-there all f**king terrorists&#33; and they all equally deserve the same punishement&#33; [/b][/quote]
YES&#33; KILL THE TERRORIST CHILDREN&#33; NUKE THEIR ASS, DEFORM THEM&#33; WOOOHOOOO&#33;&#33;&#33; LET&#39;S IMPOSE DEMOCRACY&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Ah.. the power of lead]

Originally posted by phobos77+Sep 17 2003, 07:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (phobos77 @ Sep 17 2003, 07:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Dennis S.@Sep 17 2003, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by -Bucky@Sep 17 2003, 12:49 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--hiv@Sep 17 2003, 01:24 PM
nd then about radiation, let say "hiroshima" or "nagasaki" rather than serbia or iraq, no (at least there was no Bush president back then).
Ok, let&#39;s say Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Iraq and Serbia all in the same sentence. What do they have in common?

They all refused to stand down when the US said ENOUGH&#33;

It&#39;s a simple equation, really:

Don&#39;t want to worry about radiation in your country? Don&#39;t be an aggressor against the US.

Call it Darwinism in action. If a country is stupid enough to piss off the biggest, baddest kid on the block, then they are too stupid to occupy the gene pool anyway.
Bucky, you, as well as your government still has to give any sort of proof of Iraq posing a danger to USA or having connections with 9/11 OR Al Qaeda. As a matter of fact Condoliza Rize said that there was no connection to 9/11, while Colin Powell said that there was no connection with Al Qaeda, and while Hans Blix (yesterday, in an interview to some Swedish newspaper) said he believes that most WMDs were destroyed by Iraqis 10 yars ago, like they said they did. That puts you damn out of luck declaring Iraq an agressor or posing ANY thread to US security - after all it&#39;s your officials that said that, not me. Ooooh, lookie here, Iraq is invading USA ON CAMELS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; RUUUUN&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;1111

Can&#39;t say the same thing about Serbia, as that whole thing was a joke from start to end. Serbia an agressor to the US?&#33; Yet another good joke there :thumbup: Some ppl on those forums really have a cool sense of humor :)

There&#39;s only one aggressor, the one that invades countries because they don&#39;t want to bow down to it, kills women and children and drops radiation on civilians. Guess who it is. ;)
Who cares whether Iraq has a connection with Al-qaeda-there all f**king terrorists&#33; and they all equally deserve the same punishement&#33; [/b][/quote]
so the nation of Iraq is completely made out of terrorists, who have nothing better to do then to make bombs day and night and kill american citizens... have you heard Bushes speeches...

if you have give your brain a thourough scrubbing then hit your head on a wall untill you can&#39;t remember your name.

[Ah.. the power of lead]

even the woman-children-goats and camals.

I also suppose they want to invade america with less then 20 thousand troops and old russian tanks that are falling apart...OH AND THEIR DRONE AND HELIUM BALOON TRAILERS(MWD according to bush).

Just one note, Bush was saying this report on the WMD&#39;s in Iraq was going to be an end to all the misgivings about the war. And he has delayed the release for another month.

[matzie]

Originally posted by Jdub22@Sep 17 2003, 03:08 AM
IF YOU DON&#39;T LIKE YOUR PRESIDENT, GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA YOU PEICES OF SHIT&#33;&#33;&#33;

:furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:
I wonder who&#39;s immature. So if i vote no for bush i should get the hell out of America? Man grow up you little piece of baby shit.

[zappafan]

Originally posted by Ah.. the power of lead@Sep 17 2003, 09:41 AM
Yay&#33; Political debate&#33;

All I know is a trillion dollars in tax cuts isn&#39;t gonna pay for itself.


By the way depleted uranium is a terrible mistake on the part of the military.
[COLOR=blue][FONT=Geneva][SIZE=7] How about some facts for all the Liberal-Socialist cretins contributing to this topic. Depleted uranium has less than 2% of the radioactivity of NATURALY OCCURING uranium. There are no tax cuts..... it&#39;s a reduction of the tax rates, and they DO pay for themselves, and have every time it&#39;s been used. Next... you can&#39;t trust anything Hans Blix-the loser- says. President Bush chose Iraq-Hussein for one main reason; to move the battlefield from New York (or Chicago, etc) to Iraq, where we can place those people trained in the art of fighting wars, instead of innocent people at work. Iraq is the center of terrorism in the Middle East, and so yet another reason for Iraq. You have to realize that Hussein and Bin Laden practice a religion that says that all those in a Western-type culture must die by any means. Proof of Husseins backing of terrorism in or against America? Timothy McVeigh, (Oklahoma City) when arrested, had a pocket full of Iaqi phone numbers. Ponder this: Blix saidin the first half of the war against Hussein, that there were 10,000 litres of Anthrax un-accounted for. That amount of material would fit into a regular-size gas tanker. How easy would that be to find, buried, in a land the size of California? America has the MORAL RIGHT to invade and rid the world of those who oppose Freedom and Liberty and the American way. It&#39;s Constitutionaly authorised to do so, as opposed to a National Health Plan, which is not. What "The Children" are innocent? Ask that of those in Isreal who have lost family and loved ones to a suicide bomb wrapped around a child. I have no problem with you and the like voicing your opinions, but get the facts, first. I&#39;m 52..... &#39;wanna debate?

[zappafan]

Originally posted by Ah.. the power of lead@Sep 17 2003, 08:37 PM
even the woman-children-goats and camals.

I also suppose they want to invade america with less then 20 thousand troops and old russian tanks that are falling apart...OH AND THEIR DRONE AND HELIUM BALOON TRAILERS(MWD according to bush).

Just one note, Bush was saying this report on the WMD&#39;s in Iraq was going to be an end to all the misgivings about the war. And he has delayed the release for another month.
Old tanks and cammels? They don&#39;t have to have a capability of direct attack. Al Qaeda used our own technology against us. Why? Because they are not a free people, and therefore do not have the wealth to develop their own weapons. However, if they had the Freedom and Liberty Americans have, they wouldn&#39;t want to attack us in the first place.

[Bucky]

Originally posted by Dennis S.+Sep 17 2003, 03:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dennis S. @ Sep 17 2003, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Bucky@Sep 17 2003, 05:10 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Ah.. the power of lead@Sep 17 2003, 05:41 AM
Yay&#33; Political debate&#33;

All I know is a trillion dollars in tax cuts isn&#39;t gonna pay for itself.


By the way depleted uranium is a terrible mistake on the part of the military.
What&#39;s the mistake?

It&#39;s a terrific weapon for killing the enemy.
You&#39;ve seen the photos of deformed children that were born after this &#39;terrific weapon&#39; was used. If that is your idea of the &#39;enemy&#39;, I really wish I didn&#39;t know you. Anyone that can find it in himself to justify those atrocities is morally or mentally sick. [/b][/quote]
hmmm.... I musta missed where there are children born with deformities because of the use of Depleted uranium anti-tank rounds.

Links please.

[Syanide]

The only proven thing that the depleted uranian tanks rounds caused was luchemia (sp?), cancer.

[Bucky]

Originally posted by hiv+Sep 17 2003, 02:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hiv @ Sep 17 2003, 02:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -Bucky@Sep 17 2003, 05:49 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--hiv@Sep 17 2003, 01:24 PM
nd then about radiation, let say "hiroshima" or "nagasaki" rather than serbia or iraq, no (at least there was no Bush president back then).
Ok, let&#39;s say Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Iraq and Serbia all in the same sentence. What do they have in common?

They all refused to stand down when the US said ENOUGH&#33;

It&#39;s a simple equation, really:

Don&#39;t want to worry about radiation in your country? Don&#39;t be an aggressor against the US.

Call it Darwinism in action. If a country is stupid enough to piss off the biggest, baddest kid on the block, then they are too stupid to occupy the gene pool anyway.
in common they have only DEATH, nothing else

and hmmm, I didn&#39;t notice serbians or iraqi invading north america (well same for japanese after all, but I&#39;m not gonna take japanese side, they have been colonialist animals for too long). [/b][/quote]
Who said anything about invading North Americe?

Each of the countries you named were told to either cease hostilites or to conform to UN demands. In each case the US was part of an alliance of other nations that enforced those demands.

Iraq refused to cooperate with UN demands to disarm WMDs for 12 years.
Serbia refused to stop it&#39;s attempts at genocide.

The Japanese????

You have to be kidding me. They indeed invaded North America during WW2. Aleutian Islands in Alaska, look it up. Not to mention the systematic slaughter of civilian Chinese populations, the Bataan death marches, the unprovoked and undeclared attack on Pearl Harbor, etc, etc.

Japan was offered uncoditional surrender terms months before Hirsohima and Nagasaki happened, but they refused to surrender and decided to keep fighting. Like I said.. Darwinism in action.

[Ah.. the power of lead]

Originally posted by zappafan+Sep 17 2003, 09:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (zappafan @ Sep 17 2003, 09:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Ah.. the power of lead@Sep 17 2003, 09:41 AM
Yay&#33; Political debate&#33;

All I know is a trillion dollars in tax cuts isn&#39;t gonna pay for itself.


By the way depleted uranium is a terrible mistake on the part of the military.
[COLOR=blue][FONT=Geneva][SIZE=7] How about some facts for all the Liberal-Socialist cretins contributing to this topic. Depleted uranium has less than 2% of the radioactivity of NATURALY OCCURING uranium. There are no tax cuts..... it&#39;s a reduction of the tax rates, and they DO pay for themselves, and have every time it&#39;s been used. Next... you can&#39;t trust anything Hans Blix-the loser- says. President Bush chose Iraq-Hussein for one main reason; to move the battlefield from New York (or Chicago, etc) to Iraq, where we can place those people trained in the art of fighting wars, instead of innocent people at work. Iraq is the center of terrorism in the Middle East, and so yet another reason for Iraq. You have to realize that Hussein and Bin Laden practice a religion that says that all those in a Western-type culture must die by any means. Proof of Husseins backing of terrorism in or against America? Timothy McVeigh, (Oklahoma City) when arrested, had a pocket full of Iaqi phone numbers. Ponder this: Blix saidin the first half of the war against Hussein, that there were 10,000 litres of Anthrax un-accounted for. That amount of material would fit into a regular-size gas tanker. How easy would that be to find, buried, in a land the size of California? America has the MORAL RIGHT to invade and rid the world of those who oppose Freedom and Liberty and the American way. It&#39;s Constitutionaly authorised to do so, as opposed to a National Health Plan, which is not. What "The Children" are innocent? Ask that of those in Isreal who have lost family and loved ones to a suicide bomb wrapped around a child. I have no problem with you and the like voicing your opinions, but get the facts, first. I&#39;m 52..... &#39;wanna debate? [/b][/quote]
... if the taxes pay for themselves WHY DO WE HAVE A f**kING TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICET YOU MORON&#33;

multply 2% by 100000 what do you get?

Islam preaches pacifism, and Hussein is an atheist god you are a moron.

If you don&#39;t trust Hans-Blix do you trust Condaleeza rice when she said that Hussein had no connection to 9-11. Do you trust U.S. weapon inspectors when they say that the alunimum pipes supposedly used for WMD&#39;s were not at all sutible for the use, and when they said that it was unlinkly that the two trailers (Of MASS DESTRUCTION) were used for biological weapons.(the design looks eerily similiar to a anti-flak balloon inflation device that the british commisioned to Iraq. )

Do you trust Russian officials who said that the meeting between a Iraqi agent and a Al QUeda terrorist never happened.

Do you trust the treasury department when they estimate a 3 trillion dollar deficit in 10 years.

Do you trust Bush who Clean SKies initiative is actually rolling back enviromental standards, who has gone back on his claim that Iraq is conected to 9-11, do you even beliave.

Do you believe Colin Powel or the U.S. troops who are dying in the hot sun, months beyond their normal deployment. Do you trust the Republicans when they say that U.S. troops are attracting the terrorists that would attack America, or do you trust the CIA who say we are now at a higher risk of a terrorist attack.

Do you trust Bush when he says that Iraqi&#39;s are against freedom or do you trust Iraqi&#39;s when they revolt against the repressive leadership of Hussein.

Do you trust The U.S. Military when they say that depleted uranium is safe, or various oraganizations like the U.N. when they say it causes Luekemia.

Do you trust Blix when he says that 10 thousand litres of anthrax are unnacounted for, or when he says that most of the WMD&#39;s were destroyed 10 years ago.

Research and knowledge most likely make you a democrat.

[Ah.. the power of lead]

Do you know that a million people died becuase of sanctions on Iraq, and that thousands of people wer killed by U.S. troopps, and that our trooops herd Iraqi&#39;s like cattle into detainment centers. That Afghanistan is worst then it was before and is now becoming a opium-run economy.

[Ah.. the power of lead]

children are not soldiers and terrorists. what soldiers or U.S. citizens have you heard of killed by a platoon of children, or a suicide kid. Being 52 doesn&#39;t make you right or informed. I am 14 and I know enough about current events to know that Bush lies, and spreads hateful prpaganda about middle-eastren countries

[Omegaslast]

Originally posted by matzie+Sep 17 2003, 09:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (matzie @ Sep 17 2003, 09:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Jdub22@Sep 17 2003, 03:08 AM
IF YOU DON&#39;T LIKE YOUR PRESIDENT, GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA YOU PEICES OF SHIT&#33;&#33;&#33;

:furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:


I always liked NOFX but that is a bunch of shit right there. that is the most immature video i&#39;ve seen in a long time. you guys are losers you prbably like Al Gore go suck his dick then you cock sucker bitches. you guys are the real ass holes.

I wonder who&#39;s immature. So if i vote no for bush i should get the hell out of America? Man grow up you little piece of baby shit. [/b][/quote]
LMAO so true. I think we all know jdubb is f**king 12.

Your ignorance is amazing jdubbs. Are you from texas or something jdubbs? Do you go hunting daily with your dad who drinks budweiser and yells at the TV a lot? 40 dollars says you dont know half a shit about politics. I would recommend shutting the hell up.

PLEASE PLEEEEEEEASE kill yourself. You are wasting this precious thing called "Tax dollars" and "oxygen"

They are very helpful&#33;

You guys are really shallow if you cant accept gays.

BTW: religions suck. Religions have caused more deaths than the atomic bombs, all that shit. Religions = cause of 90% of wars in time.

[jienn]

Religion exist in all people. Religion itself isn&#39;t the source of evil. People who disrespect other peoples religion is the ones causing war and hate.

[Omegaslast]

Originally posted by jienn@Sep 17 2003, 11:13 PM
Religion exist in all people. Religion itself isn&#39;t the source of evil. People who disrespect other peoples religion is the ones causing war and hate.
If religions were never made up becuase people (and by people i mean the shephards who were bored so they wrote the bible), then we wouldnt have nearly as many wars as we did.

We probably wouldnt even be in the iraq situation now. Considering jerusalem wouldnt be some BS city that they had to suicide bomb each other for.

Stupid middle easterns. :thumbdown:

[Syanide]

Originally posted by Omegaslast@Sep 17 2003, 11:38 PM
Your ignorance is amazing jdubbs. Are you from texas or something jdubbs? Do you go hunting daily with your dad who drinks budweiser and yells at the TV a lot? 40 dollars says you dont know half a shit about politics. I would recommend shutting the hell up.
Stereotyping POS.

[Omegaslast]

Originally posted by Syanide+Sep 17 2003, 11:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Syanide @ Sep 17 2003, 11:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Omegaslast@Sep 17 2003, 11:38 PM
Your ignorance is amazing jdubbs. Are you from texas or something jdubbs? Do you go hunting daily with your dad who drinks budweiser and yells at the TV a lot? 40 dollars says you dont know half a shit about politics. I would recommend shutting the hell up.
Stereotyping POS. [/b][/quote]
You know there are texas pride people like that and thats why bush is in office.

There are a lot of people in texas who know politics and are informed.

To be honest, i was stereotyping rednecks, not texas, I just know that a lot of bush supporters who are pro america to the extreme are located in texas.

[Dennis S.]

Originally posted by Bucky@Sep 17 2003, 04:46 PM
hmmm.... I musta missed where there are children born with deformities because of the use of Depleted uranium anti-tank rounds.

Links please.
How many do you need?



BIRTH DEFECTS IN IRAQ

At the Saddam Teaching Hospital in Basra, Dr. Jawad Al-Ali, a British-trained oncologist, displays, in four gaily colored photo albums, what he says are actual snapshots of the nightmares.

Â*
Â* Â*
Â* This picture is from one of four albums shown by Dr. Jawad Al-Ali that are filled with photos of deformed infants -- examples, he says, of the surge in birth defects in southern Iraq that he blames on depleted uranium.
The photos represent the surge in birth defects -- in 1989 there were 11 per 100,000 births; in 2001 there were 116 per 100,000 births -- that even before they heard about DU, had doctors in southern Iraq making comparisons to the birth defects that followed the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII.

There were photos of infants born without brains, with their internal organs outside their bodies, without sexual organs, without spines, and the list of deformities went on and on. There also were photos of cancer patients.


Link: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/951...5178_du12.shtml (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/95178_du12.shtml)


The children of British soldiers who fought in wars in which depleted uranium ammunition was used are at greater risk of suffering genetic diseases passed on by their fathers, according to new research.

Veterans of the conflicts in the Gulf, Bosnia and Kosovo have been found to have up to 14 times the usual level of chromosome abnormalities in their genes. It has raised fears that they will pass cancers and genetic illnesses to their offspring. The study is the first to analyse chromosome deformation in soldiers.

According to Paul Tyler MP, who is a member of the Royal British Legion Gulf war syndrome working group, it would be "outrageous" if the findings were ignored by the Government.

"High levels of genetic damage do not occur naturally. It increases the probability of cancer, deformed babies and other genetic conditions significantly," said Professor Albrecht Schott, a German biochemist who coordinated the research.

Link: http://www.geocities.com/beagwa/depleted_uranium_3.htm



I have recently received large numbers of photographs ofÂ* horrendous birth deformities that are being experienced in Iraq. I have not, quite frankly, ever seen anything like them. I urge you to copy this page / these pictures and circulate them as widely as possible.

In an act of stark cruelty, the US dominated Sanctions Committee refuses to permit Iraq to import the clean-up equipment that they desperately need to decontaminate their country of the Depleted Uranium ammunition that the US fired at them. Approximately 315 tons of DU dust was left by the use of this ammunition.The Sanctions Committee also refuses to allow the mass importation of anti-cancer treatments, which contain trace amounts of radio-isotopes, on the grounds that these constitute &#39;...nuclear materials..&#39;

Link: http://www.web-light.nl/VISIE/extremedeformities.html



I hope you enjoy those Bucky, really do. If you want more, I can provide them as well. Or you can go to any search engine and do some research yourself. The articles also feature extremely graphic pictures. Hope this makes appreciate your &#39;terrific weapon&#39; even more. It&#39;s neat, ain&#39;t it?

[Omegaslast]

Damn those are f**ked up dennis&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Jdub22]

I think I&#39;m going to throw up. No, seriously. :Oo: :Oo: :bucky&#33;: :bucky&#33;:

[Dennis S.]

Originally posted by Jdub22@Sep 18 2003, 12:14 AM
I think I&#39;m going to throw up. No, seriously.Â* :Oo:Â* :Oo:Â* :bucky&#33;:Â* :bucky&#33;:
Why? I thought you support the president and the military, and depleted uranium is a &#39;terrific weapon&#39;. Those are the concequences of all three. So why throw up? Get that American flag out and wave it now. After all, it&#39;s the right thing. And they&#39;re terrorist kids anyway, and not American, so who the f**k cares.

[Jdub22]

I didn&#39;t say a thing about any uranium shells. I think terrorists should be killed. Innocent babies don&#39;t deserve to be all deformed and that crap because a baby isn&#39;t guilty of anything. It hasn&#39;t even had the chance to be guilty of anything. I don&#39;t know the whole story about the shells and the weapon, but I don&#39;t mind if the terrorists can&#39;t make more terrorists (by having kids). All I meant was I clicked the link, saw the pictures and it&#39;s disgusting. I support Bush because he&#39;s better than Al Gore and he&#39;s at least trying to put a stop to terrorism because all that terrorists believe is that Allah is right and kill the infidels. They will fight to the death and do whatever they can to attack us so if I was president, I&#39;d sure as hell kick their asses any way I could. If you think about it, it&#39;s either them or us.. and I&#39;d rather it be them.

[Dennis S.]

I&#39;m not even talking about the whole &#39;it&#39;s us or them&#39; thing, or whether USA had justification to start this conflict. Let&#39;s keep it aside for now. What you saw are simply the concequences of your country&#39;s war on "terror".

It&#39;s not "terrorists" your military is fighting, nor the Iraqi military (which by definition can&#39;t be called "terrorists", as they&#39;re national armed forces - but that&#39;s yet another topic on its own), but innocent unborn children. If they wanted to fight "terrorists" only, they&#39;d use regular shells. But it seems like eradication and destruction is their purpose, just like Agent Orange that was widely used in Vietnam (note to Bucky: it was terrific weapon as well, wasn&#39;t it?)

Decision to allow them to use this kind of weaponry comes from the top. If you want to tell me that Bush doesn&#39;t know anything about it or strongly condemns it, you&#39;re wrong. Numerous reports on this topic have been made and submitted to your own government. He knows what the military uses and how - and I haven&#39;t heard of any plans to stop using that weaponry. Now I just wonder what it feels like to support a sadistic butcher....

To be honest, I like Americans. You&#39;re as close of an ally and a friend that Canada can ever have, and I feel a lot of sympathy for the American people. However I see no justification for supporting such a f**ked up government and not questioning its ways. Have you ever not been mislead by your government? Were there no cases of your presidents lying to you? How can you blindly accept what they tell you? Those are the questions that come to my mind after seeing those photos and seeing the enormous support for Bush and his tactiques. I think it&#39;s not too late to open your eyes.

Just to close this, here&#39;s a quote from "Platoon", one of my most favorite movies of all time... "...I think now, looking back, we did not fight the enemy, we fought ourselves. The enemy was in us...". Vietnam is over, but it will never end. Not until people look around and see evil dwelling in their own backyard.

[Lord Nasher]

You Americans are idiots&#33; Always saying that your are the best. That Irak scandal proved that your are f*ckin idiots&#33; In Irak you shoot your allies&#33; Killed 10 soldiers&#33; What a waste. Always babling about terrorism. It&#39;s todays topic, but americans talk too much about it. Do you think that using clusterbombs in irak kills the terrorists? I dont think so&#33; Just want to kill arabians, because "all of them are terrorists". :furious:

[germanio]

rofl, i guess u should learn a lot yet. whats about homos? shure im not a homo, but why do you fear them :P . perhaps the fear u could get homo too :suicide: . and u and your country is the greatest in your dreams... , open your eyes, you killed millions since the 2. worldwar, which should have teached the whole world to do it better in the future. and now you have a president, that leeds you in a economical crises, departs you from the rest of the world ( in spite of a few idiots like blair), nice one, let it go fools....

[Bucky]

Originally posted by Dennis S.+Sep 17 2003, 08:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dennis S. @ Sep 17 2003, 08:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Bucky@Sep 17 2003, 04:46 PM
hmmm.... I musta missed where there are children born with deformities because of the use of Depleted uranium anti-tank rounds.

Links please.
How many do you need?



BIRTH DEFECTS IN IRAQ

At the Saddam Teaching Hospital in Basra, Dr. Jawad Al-Ali, a British-trained oncologist, displays, in four gaily colored photo albums, what he says are actual snapshots of the nightmares.

Â*Â*
Â* Â*
Â* This picture is from one of four albums shown by Dr. Jawad Al-Ali that are filled with photos of deformed infants -- examples, he says, of the surge in birth defects in southern Iraq that he blames on depleted uranium.
The photos represent the surge in birth defects -- in 1989 there were 11 per 100,000 births; in 2001 there were 116 per 100,000 births -- that even before they heard about DU, had doctors in southern Iraq making comparisons to the birth defects that followed the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII.

There were photos of infants born without brains, with their internal organs outside their bodies, without sexual organs, without spines, and the list of deformities went on and on. There also were photos of cancer patients.


Link: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/951...5178_du12.shtml (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/95178_du12.shtml)


The children of British soldiers who fought in wars in which depleted uranium ammunition was used are at greater risk of suffering genetic diseases passed on by their fathers, according to new research.

Veterans of the conflicts in the Gulf, Bosnia and Kosovo have been found to have up to 14 times the usual level of chromosome abnormalities in their genes. It has raised fears that they will pass cancers and genetic illnesses to their offspring. The study is the first to analyse chromosome deformation in soldiers.

According to Paul Tyler MP, who is a member of the Royal British Legion Gulf war syndrome working group, it would be "outrageous" if the findings were ignored by the Government.

"High levels of genetic damage do not occur naturally. It increases the probability of cancer, deformed babies and other genetic conditions significantly," said Professor Albrecht Schott, a German biochemist who coordinated the research.

Link: http://www.geocities.com/beagwa/depleted_uranium_3.htm



I have recently received large numbers of photographs ofÂ* horrendous birth deformities that are being experienced in Iraq. I have not, quite frankly, ever seen anything like them. I urge you to copy this page / these pictures and circulate them as widely as possible.

In an act of stark cruelty, the US dominated Sanctions Committee refuses to permit Iraq to import the clean-up equipment that they desperately need to decontaminate their country of the Depleted Uranium ammunition that the US fired at them. Approximately 315 tons of DU dust was left by the use of this ammunition.The Sanctions Committee also refuses to allow the mass importation of anti-cancer treatments, which contain trace amounts of radio-isotopes, on the grounds that these constitute &#39;...nuclear materials..&#39;

Link: http://www.web-light.nl/VISIE/extremedeformities.html



I hope you enjoy those Bucky, really do. If you want more, I can provide them as well. Or you can go to any search engine and do some research yourself. The articles also feature extremely graphic pictures. Hope this makes appreciate your &#39;terrific weapon&#39; even more. It&#39;s neat, ain&#39;t it? [/b][/quote]
Oh please, Dennis. Even you aren&#39;t so naive as to believe everything put up on the net.

How about some authoritative links that actually look at what DU is and does instead of sensationalized and questionable sites that show horrific pictures and scream DEPLETED URANIUM at the top of their lungs.

Heres one: http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/faq_17apr.htm

Of course, actually looking up the truth of the matter wouldn&#39;t fit in with your cherished notion of a corrupt, inept and essentially evil US.

By the way folks, you all seem to think that every American or British soldier hauls around 50 pounds worth of DU ammo everywhere they go, and that we tuck a little bit of it into every weapon that we fire.

Here is a complete list of the ordnance that we use that have DU penetrators in them:

20mm MK149
25mm PGU-20
25mm M919 Armor Piercing, Fin Stabilized, Discarding Sabot, with Tracer (APFSDS-T)
30mm PGU-14/B API Armor Piercing Incendiary
120mm M829 Armor Piercing, Fin Stabilized, Discarding Sabot-Tracer (APFSDS-T)

Care to do some research into other possible causes of all of those birth defects? Or even better, how about a scientific study by an authoratative body of the incidence of birth defects in children of soldiers exposed to DU (which is a relatively small number, btw) have birth defects.

What is the real incidence of birth defects in Southern Iraq BEFORE the first Persian Gulf conflict? How many of those defects are the result of exposure to toxic substances as a result of the Hussein regime.

Don&#39;t parade a bunch of Iraqwar.ru links and expect them to be taken seriously.

[Itachi]

i thnk this topic should be closed,because even though this is kindergarten this is going way too far,

personally i love my country, isuupport almost any desicion that will ensure this country safety
i have seen some of those pictures of the DU shells after affects,and yes i am apolied by what i see.I will end what im think of typing here but,lets just end all trash talking about the usa

[Jdub22]

I&#39;m with Itachi, this has gone way too far. Nobody in these forums have the power to do anything about the wars going on in the world so let&#39;s not fight about it like we personally, are killing babies and intoxicating innocent people. Nobody here thrives on war, nobody here likes it. We only want terrorism to end and that is the only part of this war that we support. The end of terrorism. WE DON&#39;T SUPPORT THE TERRIBLE THINGS THAT HAPPEN TO INNOCENT PEOPLE, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER IT SO PLEASE DON&#39;T ACT LIKE WE&#39;RE THE ONES DOING THIS TO PEOPLE.
can&#39;t we all just get along?

[xxhc_kidxx]

on the subject of free I would just like to mention that being gay is just a way to live your life .. there is in no form hate here

ok so now you get on the topic of disliking gays or hating them gay bashing and such things like that .. these are forms of hate which in turn falls under the human rights act .. it basically saying that it would be the same thing as hating african americains .. this is not free speech this is hate propangda the same which the NAzis used to kill millions of innocent Jewish people ..

and on another note I would like to point this out

"2. No Racism, No Threatening, No Profanity (except for Kindergarden), No (citing) Victimization (via PM) or Hateful posts / Retaliation of any kind against a member, or group of members."


hateful post .. those post were hateful against a persons life style and beliefs .. I belive it goes against the rules and should be deleted


thank you
Ray

[Jdub22]

Let me tell you this little HC_KID (I can only assume that hc stands for HARD CORE because you&#39;re so cool&#33;).
How about "Gay Day" at Disney World? Gay people go there and parade around doing homosexual acts and that imposes on my religion. They are violating my religion. I wasn&#39;t out saying bad stuff about them until they made the move to start up GAY DAYS and men and women making out in public just because they feel special. Those homos imposed on MY life style and MY beliefs. Not on this forum, but worse. IN REAL LIFE AT DISNEY WORLD. I was there on "GAY DAY," so f**k them and f**k you.

[Sarafan Lord]

I think the solution to all the world&#39;s problems can be summed up in the words of the immortal captain Sparrow: You need to get yourself a girl, mate&#33; :D

Seriously though, after reading pages 1-4 in this topic i have come to the conclusion that the biggest tragedy in all this, is that i will never get the 20 minutes i spent reading this drivel back. And that i my little contribution to this parade of idiocy. :lol:

[Itachi]

sarafan thats why you should have done jsut like me, read only the last page and make your commenst based on that

[Omegaslast]

Originally posted by Jdub22@Sep 19 2003, 12:46 AM
Let me tell you this little HC_KID (I can only assume that hc stands for HARD CORE because you&#39;re so cool&#33;).
How about "Gay Day" at Disney World? Gay people go there and parade around doing homosexual acts and that imposes on my religion. They are violating my religion. I wasn&#39;t out saying bad stuff about them until they made the move to start up GAY DAYS and men and women making out in public just because they feel special. Those homos imposed on MY life style and MY beliefs. Not on this forum, but worse. IN REAL LIFE AT DISNEY WORLD. I was there on "GAY DAY," so f**k them and f**k you.
Lol it goes against your religion so you are allowed to hate it? Religious people are full of themselves (and it shows haha).

If you werent screaming homophobic maybe you could cope with gay people. BTW maybe you should plan ahead when going to amusement parks.

[Jdub22]

Like I said. f**k them, and f**k you.

[Dennis S.]

Originally posted by Greywolf@Sep 16 2003, 07:23 AM
I liked the "Don&#39;t hate us because we are Americans. Hate our Government" part best :thumbup:
It&#39;s not against USA, it&#39;s about your president. That&#39;s why the name of this thread is "anti-bush".

But on personal note, you can see that the political attitude of your country changed people&#39;s image of USA. Another reason to thank Bush :)

[mr. evil]

The thread is to long for me



Did i couse a riot here :Oo: ?



http://www.ericblumrich.com/buddy.html :dennis:

[matzie]

Originally posted by Jdub22@Sep 19 2003, 12:46 AM
Let me tell you this little HC_KID (I can only assume that hc stands for HARD CORE because you&#39;re so cool&#33;).
How about "Gay Day" at Disney World? Gay people go there and parade around doing homosexual acts and that imposes on my religion. They are violating my religion. I wasn&#39;t out saying bad stuff about them until they made the move to start up GAY DAYS and men and women making out in public just because they feel special. Those homos imposed on MY life style and MY beliefs. Not on this forum, but worse. IN REAL LIFE AT DISNEY WORLD. I was there on "GAY DAY," so f**k them and f**k you.
I was thinking about your name, Jdub22. Dont say your 22 years old man?

[Dirt_pridE]

Whoopy&#33; Political discussions in Kindergarten&#33;&#33; And gay discussions too&#33;&#33; Come on, sing it with me: It&#39;s fun to stay at the YMCA&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[slayer one]

I think gays are O.K. But man, I got one complaint. Why the rainbow stickers? Why not put a sign on the back of your car that says,"I like to suck dick."? Or howsabout, "I break for fudge". I don&#39;t run around telling everyone who doesn&#39;t give a rat&#39;s ass that I&#39;m straight&#33; Does anyone else? And as far as these non-toothbrush having english retards go, come to Nashville, Tennessee, stand in the middle of downtown and say exactly what you just told all of us, just the way you told all of us and see if we don&#39;t send your ass packing back to that jolly old country that so graciously founded and populated us. (kinda like we did back in the, oh, what was it? THE REVOLUTIONARY ASS KICKING. I mean war.) :thumbdown:

[Nxs]

I brake for fudge&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; lol&#33; Damn near made me snort beer :D

[slayer one]

Y,know, Lord Nasher, maybe cluster bombs don&#39;t kill terrorists but I,ll bet they shit their robes when they hear that f**ked up whistle..... :dennis: