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Bucky
12-27-2002, 10:15 PM
I have been spending way to much time chewing on this, so I am just going to vent out here.

Stabbe, you are a jackass. Â*Carnage hasn't done anything different here that he hasn't done for the past four months. But, suddenly, because he insulted you, you are going to ban him. It doesn't matter that you have shown no hesitation in throwing out personal insults in the past. To me, you just appear out of control.

Interman, you defend this by saying it is bad to insult an Admin, Bullshit! Â*Since when are you guys immune from being called out? And you say that Carnage makes this place an unfriendly place to be? According to who? Â*Stabbe has just made this a hell of a lot more unfriendly than anything Carnage could have done. Why? because if I piss him off I can get banned.

Where does it say that you can't cuss? Where does it say you can't insult Admins? Where does it say you can't go on a rant? Where does it say you can't insult others? Â*There is no TOS, so you guys are just running this by the seat of your pants, and you just ran out of seat.

Btw, you wanna see behaviour that has no place here? Look at Stabbe editting a 1 line post where an Anon asked a registered member if they were stupid. That was all there was to it. Carnage had the nuts to step up and call Stabbe out on it, and he gets banned for it.

This is pure, unadulterated bullshit. Â*Remove my mod status because I want no part of this crap.
interman
12-27-2002, 10:48 PM
I'll answer for my part at least..
In general, insulting people who are allowed to ban people is a bad idea. I haven't banned anyone as of yet, and I don't plan to if it can we worked out otherwise. What I don't like is when people (like carnage have) insult people for having certain opinions, not accepting that his own might not be the only correct one.

Of course, like normal members, admins can act badly too, but we try our best to have a somewhat civilized, yet fun forum.

You're allowed to cuss (almost) all you want in Kindergarden, as long as directly insulting threads are kept out of the sections that are supposed to be about gaming.

It seems like Carnage is willing to cool down, so he'll be unbanned, if he hasn't been already by someone else.
*DoInThIs4FuN*
12-27-2002, 10:50 PM
I totally agree with u on this 1 Bucky... http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

U sort of put it all in2 perspective 4 me...
Stabbe
12-27-2002, 10:53 PM
Finished yet?!?......good.
What´s going on between Carnage and me is our problem,not yours.And we already solved it.So what the fuss about?? http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif COOL IT http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif
Nxs
12-27-2002, 11:36 PM
Woohooo what a beaver fight! It's about time someone used this thread right http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Carnage
12-28-2002, 12:01 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (interman @ Dec. 28 2002,00:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What I don&#39;t like is when people (like carnage have) insult people for having certain opinions, not accepting that his own might not be the only correct one.[/b][/quote]
I have never, NEVER that is, flaimed anyone, not even Dark_angel, on his opinions, beleives or whatever.
(or maybe I might have said:"Hey, u are homosexual oriëntated", but only when 18 out of 23 threads were started by one certain person, pointing out the obvious or were just totaly of no interest to ANYONE whatsoever, on which subject I think many forumers agreed with me and I even got backed up on a few occasions by some "guest"-posters(anonymous users) who validated my point.
I even knew almost for a fact that there were lost of lurkers that must have been really annoyed by Dark_Angel and his spam and most certainly at least had a good laugh at me flaiming Dark_Angel...... but this is not the point I&#39;m making here) Â*

I only told certain people that I didn&#39;t liked the way that they were trolling or trying to get attention, which is kinda the same imho.

When I insulted other people, I don&#39;t really know IF I did it, but hey,(mostly for having another opinion on Silent Hill2(:) I only did it by telling them they could be a faggot, which doesn&#39;t seem to be a really hard argument....

(Stabbe, I&#39;m sorry I used a cuss word again btw, please don&#39;t ban me like u always do without even letting anybody know or consultng anybody about it)

Stabbe, It is clear to me that u don&#39;t really bear a warm heart for me (Since u banned me twice in a row) and I really think U should be demoted, but ok that&#39;s up to Dennis S. I guess..

Furthermore: Bucky, You are so right on all of your points but it doesn&#39;t feel right to lick your anus(that isn&#39;t a cuss-word is it?) because it would be obvious that I would be doing that, just because you are stating arguments in my favor and that&#39;s just kinda lame, But still your very right.

*Licks nonetheless*

Ow, I What I really wanted to say was this: Stabbe You think that the only thing playing between us is that you banned me by being such a forum-nazi and now that u unbanned me everything is peachy? Well U might think that "everything is solved" But I strongly disagree.
Don&#39;t tell Bucky "to cool" down when he even started his post by saying that he was chewing on this for a long time and he just HAD to spill his guts...
...damnit, i forgot what I really wanted to say again http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif ...
Owyeah, it&#39;s this: I said it befor and I&#39;ll say it again: I don&#39;t take getting banned lightly, but in your defence, you are a worthless mod....and don&#39;t even contribute anything essential to this forum yourself(almost started cursing there again)
Stabbe
12-28-2002, 12:28 AM
Carnage who is the Mod?? U or me , don´t say what i can´t,im here to make this forum a better place for NORMAL people , who don´t want to have kinds like u jumpin on them and cursing at them, we will soon put in new forum rules.Until then use kindergarden for your flamewars and swearing and whatever.



Last edited by Stabbe at Dec. 28 2002,02:32
Nxs
12-28-2002, 12:31 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Stabbe @ Dec. 28 2002,02:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Carnage who is the Mod?? U or me , we will soon put in new forum rules.Until then use kindergarden for your flamewars and swearing and whatever.[/b][/quote]
Touche&#33; http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Carnage
12-28-2002, 12:57 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Stabbe @ Dec. 28 2002,02:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Carnage who is the Mod?? U or me , don´t say what i can´t,im here to make this forum a better place for NORMAL people , who don´t want to have kinds like u jumpin on them and cursing at them, we will soon put in new forum rules.Until then use kindergarden for your flamewars and swearing and whatever.[/b][/quote]
Where did I swear in my last few posts, Forum-Nazi??
Nxs
12-28-2002, 01:28 AM
Carnage, Stabbe.... Can&#39;t we all just get a long? http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Stabbe
12-28-2002, 01:53 AM
Well Carnage..

Stabbe you fucking bitch, He only asked: " are you stupid"

Where did you copy/paste this from, señor Dickhead??
Or do u want us to believe u wrote this yourself?

DID you fucking BAN ME, Dennis S.???&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

WHy the ####, moron, Fucking fucking ####&#33;&#33;&#33;
Don&#39;t BAN ME fucking alcoholic piece of shiat

He&#39;s a fucking-no-life-retarded-imbecile

You are such a goddamn fucking moron, goddamn idiotic Dark_Anus, I really really hate you with all your spam and your stupid:

Rewarding your Q won&#39;t get you an answer" Which is totally fucking lame, makes no sense whatsoever, and you even misspell THAT time after time, fucking shithead

Here is what was said and u didn&#39;t even remember, although it was told to you in good confidence that you were not fucking retarded and had not somebody replace your brain with thick sh1t by shitting in your fucking gay mouth, faggot:

You still have to translate this to the appropriate language for Dark_Anus...faggoty-isch or something...

haHAH, how phunney.


FAGGOT&#33;

Dark_angel, you goddamn faggot, stop making ALL these thread FFS

FFS, Dennis, what does that "S." behind your name stand for? Suckage perhaps?

That idiot is fucking up the whole forum by spamming us all to death and you honour him for it?
"Have you no brain?"

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And there sure is more..
Stabbe
12-28-2002, 01:57 AM
Im not saying that i am defending Dark Angel 100% but u swear and piss off other people alot.

If u check other forums u might find that they don´t allow this kind of behavior , u would get banned faster than lightning if u were on another forum.Be grateful that u still are here.

We might use this as a new rule in our forum

4) Be nice to each other and respect the moderator. Profanity and insults will not be tolerated. If you have a problem with another member turn to the respective moderator.



Last edited by Stabbe at Dec. 28 2002,04:06
firefly
12-28-2002, 02:16 AM
die monkey-boy&#33; you backhills, moonshine swillin....... <insert word to be named later>

*munches on more popcorn*

I always did enjoy a good heated discussion.

Carnage, not everyone is a faggot nor idiot just because they dont think the same as you. Â*With Dark Angel it was funny. Â*You pretty much ran him off, so then there is no need to call anyone else a fag or an idiot. Â*For the record, calling soemone a fag is about the most 12 yr old put down there is, if you cant at least come up with some decent material and flammage, then dont bother, calling someone a fag basically says i cant think up anything intelligent to flame you on, so I am going to act like a 12 yr old and call you names. Â*My experiences have been, the first one to call the other a fag, has just lost the debate. Â*Didnt you say you were 19 or 20? Â*Then act like it.

As for Stabbe, just because you dont like what someone says doesnt give free reign to ban. Â*The mod mantra is to be above the "action" and keep a nonpartial, levelheaded view. Â*If someone calls you a c*#swillin mommas boy you gotta take it, edit the post if any of the statements are against rules, but for the most part let it roll off you back. Â*Turning the forum into a "military police state" is only counterproductive. Â*Personally I found Carnage&#39;s sig about raping unborn babies not only disgustingly immature, but also highly offensive, yet looking at him as some bad person isnt going to accomplish much, and is rather narrow minded. Â*
Bygones need to be let bygones. Â*While it was somewhat amusing, things got out of hand with Dark Angel and he ended up being run off. Â*The board shouldnt be like some gestapo, running people off. Â*Rather elitist in my opinion. Â*He did tend to be annoying but he also had some good things to say.

As for editing out an anon person asking a registered member if they were stupid, who gives a flying fu*k? Â*Thats just what we need, anon people spamming asking if so and so is stupid because of something they said. Â*Another great input there, lemme tell you. Â*I am going to have to go with the pessimists on this one, the world is turning into a sh*t hole because there seem to be more and more people with IQs that equal my shoe size. Â*If all you can add to a discussion is "are you stupid?" then please go kill yourself, you are a waste of my oxygen. Â*At least come up with some intelligent retort explaining your position. Â*You landblast Dark Angel for making pointless posts yet then some people&#39;s only input is either libel (for the vocabulary challenged - slanderous aka "saying bad things about people that you have no proof of validity" put in the form of writing displayed in a public manner) or what i would hope to be are pointless rhetorical questions.

To quote your mom, "if you cant say anything nice, then take it to the Kindergarden Forum". Â*Now I am going to go back to drinking, so please think before you post..... and flame away.

as for bannage, perhaps a public vote, or since spammage is a nice cheat, a limited vote accessible only by certain members (my ex runs an ikonboard for an Everquest guild, had sections that only she could allow access to.... /shrug
Nxs
12-28-2002, 02:50 AM
Sheesh backhills is a little harsh&#33; I have most of my teeth&#33; http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
firefly
12-28-2002, 03:30 AM
Sorry bout that NXS, i just get confused sometimes, seeing as how you always have that Deliverance theme song playing....

lol, jk
it is just fun to give you crap. Still looking for more Monkey Pics.

as always, please remember.......

http://www.tm001d6792.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/boohoo4.jpg
Nxs
12-28-2002, 03:42 AM
lol. Like I get offended http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Bring on the dueling banjos&#33;
Carnage
12-28-2002, 10:03 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Stabbe @ Dec. 28 2002,03:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Stabbe you fucking bitch, He only asked: " are you stupid"

Where did you copy/paste this from, señor Dickhead??
Or do u want us to believe u wrote this yourself?

DID you fucking BAN ME, Dennis S.???&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

WHy the ####, moron, Fucking fucking ####&#33;&#33;&#33;
Don&#39;t BAN ME fucking alcoholic piece of shiat

He&#39;s a fucking-no-life-retarded-imbecile

You are such a goddamn fucking moron, goddamn idiotic Dark_Anus, I really really hate you with all your spam and your stupid: Â*

Rewarding your Q won&#39;t get you an answer" Which is totally fucking lame, makes no sense whatsoever, and you even misspell THAT time after time, fucking shithead Â* Â*

Here is what was said and u didn&#39;t even remember, although it was told to you in good confidence that you were not fucking retarded and had not somebody replace your brain with thick sh1t by shitting in your fucking gay mouth, faggot:

You still have to translate this to the appropriate language for Dark_Anus...faggoty-isch or something...

haHAH, how phunney. Â*


FAGGOT&#33;

Dark_angel, you goddamn faggot, stop making ALL these thread FFS

FFS, Dennis, what does that "S." behind your name stand for? Suckage perhaps?

That idiot is fucking up the whole forum by spamming us all to death and you honour him for it?
"Have you no brain?"[/b][/quote]
http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

<!--QuoteBegin--Firefly]
With Dark Angel it was funny. Â*You pretty much ran him off+so then there is no need to call anyone else a fag or an idiot. Â*For the record, calling soemone a fag is about the most 12 yr old put down there is, if you cant at least come up with some decent material and flammage, then dont bother, calling someone a fag basically says i cant think up anything intelligent to flame you on, so I am going to act like a 12 yr old and call you names.[/quote--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Firefly]
With Dark Angel it was funny. Â*You pretty much ran him off @ so then there is no need to call anyone else a fag or an idiot. Â*For the record, calling soemone a fag is about the most 12 yr old put down there is, if you cant at least come up with some decent material and flammage, then dont bother, calling someone a fag basically says i cant think up anything intelligent to flame you on, so I am going to act like a 12 yr old and call you names.[/quote)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">

And Firefly, Like I said before:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I only did it by telling them they could be a faggot, which doesn&#39;t seem to be a really hard argument....[/b][/quote]

So I agree with you on that matter and I know that telling someone is a F4g (or rather a FAGORT&#33;1&#33;-JeffK wise) Â*is the behaviour of a mentally challenged 8 year old, but that makes it all the more funny, (just MHO)

But isn&#39;t it all the more sad when u have to run of an internet community just because u are being ridiculed in that way and have nothing decent to throw back at the person harassing u in such a way??
Stabbe
12-28-2002, 04:01 PM
Do u say all these words to people in real life u don´t know for no reason , like Faggot , dickhead ,piece of #### etc , just for no reason?
Stabbe
12-28-2002, 10:26 PM
just found this thread , see what´s wrong here.
http://www.gamershell.com/cgi-bin....7;t=842 (http://www.gamershell.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=17;t=842)
Bucky
12-28-2002, 10:52 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Stabbe @ Dec. 28 2002,17:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">just found this thread , see what´s wrong here.
http://www.gamershell.com/cgi-bin....7;t=842 (http://www.gamershell.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=17;t=842)[/b][/quote]
What&#39;s your point?

You can go back four months and find him making posts like that. He has acted that way since he joined here.

Which is exactly my point. If you are going to change the rules of the forums, and decide that Carnage&#39;s behaviour is no longer acceptable, don&#39;t you owe him the courtesy of notifying and allowing him the opportunity to modify his behaviour before you ban him.

That is what I was driving at in my original post. For all I know, you might decide tomorrow that the pics that I post here are unacceptable and find myself banned.

In fact in this (http://www.gamershell.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=17;t=820) thread, I warned folks that I was going to start editting posts if people didn&#39;t stop with the personal attacks, and I was told by Dennis that I would do no such thing.

Can you see where Carnage might be confused by you banning him for making personal attacks?
Stabbe
12-28-2002, 11:32 PM
Bucky , i HAVE warned him in PM 2 -3 times. Isn´t that ENOUGH ?. Stop talking what u don´t know.
Bucky
12-28-2002, 11:44 PM
You telling him in PM isn&#39;t enough, because you have Dennis saying in public, in effect, that there is nothing wrong with what he is doing.

Like it or not, forumites are under the impression that Dennis is the head honcho around here because he is the most visible member of the staff.

Quit trotting our more "evidence" of his mis-behaviour because it is no surprise to anybody. I don&#39;t like his tirades any more than anyone else around here, but I was told to deal with it.

And quit telling me to shut up.
firefly
12-29-2002, 12:20 AM
http://www.tm001d6792.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/misc19.gif



http://www.tm001d6792.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/misc38.jpg
Stabbe
12-29-2002, 12:55 AM
Bucky , i didn´t tell u to shutup , just not talk about something u weren´t 100% sure of like that i didn´t warn him, i did.And I am a Admin either u like or not. And i will continue deleting post that are offensive for no reason.Dennis isn´t the only admin here,and he doesn´t mind me doing it, he has his Kindergarden to take care off now , so he gets his flamewars and such http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif.
Bucky
12-29-2002, 01:17 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Stabbe @ Dec. 27 2002,19:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">we will soon put in new forum rules.[/b][/quote]
Any idea when these rules will be put up?
Stabbe
12-29-2002, 01:26 AM
Ask interman , he is making them.
interman
12-29-2002, 08:24 AM
today or tomorrow.


PREPARE http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif
Carnage
12-29-2002, 11:19 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Stabbe @ Dec. 29 2002,01:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Bucky , i HAVE warned him in PM 2 -3 times. Isn´t that ENOUGH ?. Stop talking what u don´t know.[/b][/quote]
Well, this was all originated by the "Dark_Angel stop making all the threads"-Thread (I guess)

The First message sent to me by Stabbe:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Stabbe@Dec. 19 2002 @ 19:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
One more thread like this and u are banned , GET IT??&#33;?&#33;

Let anyone make how many posts as they like as long people respond to them.We don´t like people like u who says what to go or not.Now make threads that are not offensive to anyone.[/b][/quote]

Ofcourse I thought this was kinda weird, because I thought It was ok for me to ask other people for their opinions on the matter of some crazey dude generating more messages and threads then....well just a lot.

So I replied:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Carnage@Dec. 19 2002 @ 20: 06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
FFS, look at the "Gamershell forum" section 18 out of 23 threads are fucking started by that putz, he is ruining the forum all by himself, most of his threads don&#39;t get more then TWO&#33;&#33; replys.

If this is the deal, I don&#39;t mind getting banned.... Â*

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---Co-nect-on----In-errupt-d---- [/b][/quote]

I was hoping to get an answer ofcourse and so I did:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Stabbe@Dec. 19 2002 @ 20:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
He makes good game related threads , and if there are only two posts per threads that´s because our forum don´t have that many users yet to reply. [/b][/quote]

Unfortunately, as you can see, it was total and utterly bullshit, which made me kinda sad.....and kinda annoyed.

I replied:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Carnage@Dec. 19 2002 @ 20:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
There isn&#39;t being replied much, cuz first of all they are all obvious like hell, and secondly he starts another thread every 15 minutes, for crying out loud

Open your eyes please.


Are you really Dennis S.&#39; Girlfriend btw?

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---Co-nect-on----In-errupt-d---- [/b][/quote]

Next thing I knew I was banned
Stabbe
12-29-2002, 04:12 PM
End of Discussion , No use to continue, i will ban and/or delete posts that are offensive to Admins or others.End of story.
Dennis S.
12-30-2002, 04:29 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Stabbe @ Dec. 29 2002,13:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">End of Discussion , No use to continue, i will ban and/or delete posts that are offensive to Admins or others.End of story.[/b][/quote]
Stabbe, please have all anti-Dennis posts exempt from that. Like I said, I like a good flamewar.


Aw, and Bucky needs his diapers changed again.

As for Carnage, he should stop trying to be the anarchist boy and accept his BSB membership

Nxs.... I stole your monkey pr0n&#33; hahahahahaha

hiv sux fat dix

aw, and Stabbe... Your avatar is not scary&#33; Muhahahahahaha



/ Flame on, kids&#33;
Redeemer
01-02-2003, 03:36 AM
Have I told you lately that I love you?
This thread is so full of love.
Come on&#33; Grouphug&#33;
kaotik
01-04-2003, 07:05 PM
whoah, i don&#39;t come by here for a week and all hell breaks loose, well im back now, you can all look at my avatar and settle down again http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

btw good job starting this interesting thread bucky, it was quite the read
Ah.. the power of lead
01-25-2003, 12:12 PM
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Redeemer
01-25-2003, 02:10 PM
That&#39;s right kids. Don&#39;t be a fool, stay in school.
Ah.. the power of lead
01-25-2003, 10:49 PM
http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif do I have to..... do I?
Ah.. the power of lead
01-25-2003, 10:51 PM
HEY KAOTIK NICE AVATAR...hehehehe.......hehehe.....he....hehe....h e


*IMMATURE* YET HORNY http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif
Dennis S.
01-27-2003, 06:42 PM
that&#39;s because canada rox http://www.gamershell.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif