ATI or NVIDIA???

Originally posted by ThunderBoy@Apr 7 2004, 03:47 PM
I can't understand where all this, "ATI rules, Nvidia sucks" or vice versa stuff comes from.Â* ATI has a better current generation of cards, the generation before that Nvidia was the clear winner, next generation who knows?Â* Honestly, doesn't it just make more sense to go with whatever card offers the best performance at the moment?Â* All this "FanBoy" crap is just stupid and uninformed.

Heh. I agree. That's also why I like ATi, because it's now been a generation or more and their cards are still the best.

As far as the floating point precision, yes, nVidia would like to claim they use 32 bit, but the truth is they usually end up using 16 bit and converting it to enable them to keep up with ATi's Direct X 9 standard 24 bit performance. The real problem is that nVidia thought they would be clever and develop their own answer to Direct X and expected everyone to adapt. Unfortunately it didn't pan out the way they had planned and their Cine-FX or whatever they called it was pretty much a flop. I still don't see the "cinematic quality" real-time rendering they promised. In fact, ATi usually has better image quality for the time being.

It will be interesting to see what happens when (if?) they adapt their card to use a true 24 bit path, like they should have with the GeForce-FX 5800 Ultra. Then there may finally be some good competition going on again. I think if they take the time to rethink their architecture and shaders instead of trying to clock the hell out of the GPU and memory, and pumping up their marketing department, they might end up making a big comeback.

Don't get me wrong... both companies have awesome cards out right now, but I believe the ATi variations do better on almost any DX9 intensive game.

Oh and speaking of Dawn, the nVidia fairy demo... Did everyone know that you can run that demo on an ATi card with a few opengl files (and it performs better than the cards it was made for - much like UT2003 - "The way it's meant to be played" is definitely just a slogan, as it runs better on ATi) :thumbup:

Run Dawn demo on ATi cards

Suck on that fanboys!!!! :thumbup:

Im going to wait to see what ATi have up their sleeve first

Originally posted by Syanide+Apr 4 2004, 12:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Syanide @ Apr 4 2004, 12:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--IdiotWithAStick@Apr 3 2004, 06:54 PM

Well, the ATI also has twice as many pixel pipelines.
(Eight intead of four)

They quit the 9500 Pro cos of that, and bumped the 9600 in at 4 pipelines...,.. although the 9700 pro and upwards has 9 pipe lines (but the 9800se has 4 open, and another for you can Mod unlock). [/b][/quote]
umm..its actually 8 pipelines...9 doesnt exist...YET! (just had to point taht out

I'm kinda skeptical about the new ATI cards, up until afew months ago they had a 12 pipeline architecture, then when they heard Nvidia was using 16 pipes they bumped it up to 16 aswell. This kind of last minute design change has me abit worried as to the integrity of the design. I guess we'll have to wait and see though. All I know is a 3D mark 03 score of 12,000 and Halo at 1600x1200 full effects running at 60fps sounds pretty damned sweet to me. :thumbup:

screw halo think more along the lines of deux ex invis war, far cry, painkiller they have the graphics engines to worry about

well, halo does partially use dx9 features, including pixel shader 2.0 programs. it might not look like it, but it's technically a pretty advanced port

Yea even though Halo might not look to pretty it is a good game for benchmarking purposes, just look at how much trouble it gave other cards.

lol
i am a fanboy i admit it
I LOVE ATI :francesco:
have been using ati since the 4mb ati rage pro days pci and i still have that card somewhere too!

I like Nvidia but somethimes when
im lookin on prices aaargh!
i have fx5200 think it is BETTER then radeon 9200 and
newer so in low prices category Nvidia is better
in higher prices think ati z good
all demand as usual on MONEY