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Old 08-07-2004, 02:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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walshy: i like ati a lot too, and for the same reasons. to me their cards seem like a more elegant solution to a problem, as they say in programming, math etc. but as of right now nvidia is ahead.

phill: they must've been using old drivers for the 6800 ultra, because i've had most of the current generation of nvidia and ati cards and the x800xt falls short for now.

ati is, without driver optimalizations, faster when AA is used, and that's an important selling point. nvidia redeems itself by it's many detonator releases, which do help performance, but if you were to use a more "unknown" test then ati would kill nvidia if AA is used

in terms of image quality they're now about identical. ati's aa quality is better, but nvidia is slightly better on anisotropic filtering
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Old 08-08-2004, 10:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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X800 pro v 6800GT?

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6800 GT has 16 pipes and just lowered the core speed over the Ultra

X800 pro has 12 pipes and lowered speeds


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6800GT also runs far too hot, and lacks performance in next gen engines.(if you want to argue.. don't... i don't have time for this crap)

Just read this http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/2...0504/index.html
EDIT:In Next-Gen engines like UT2k4 and FarCry the Pro outdoes the 6800Ultra, it should PWN the GT

If u crank the settings up, the 6800 is a dieing baby
"In Halo, the GeForce 6800 Ultra can eke out a slim lead. This is due in great part to the fact that we tested without anisotropic filtering."'
I run 16xAF so...What do you think Id want?
The FSAA on NVIDIA Cards makes them unplayable, check the UT2k4 Specs under Image Quality

o yeh and the X800Pro and XT are clocked higher then the 6800Ultra
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9800XT , is the Best looking with 2 fans and great retails box + u get HL2 for free and VIVO :francesco:
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but its the worst performing!(the 9800XT) compared to the X800 and 6800
However it pwns all other cards not from the new-gen
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idd , i got it half year ago...

i dont have regrets i will buy it again for this hot chick on the retail box :francesco:
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I also have a 9800XT and it owns!! I have the Asus 9800XT limited edition
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Originally posted by Sepht@Aug 8 2004, 10:39 PM
6800GT also runs far too hot, and lacks performance in next gen engines.(if you want to argue.. don't... i don't have time for this crap)

Just read this http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/2...0504/index.html
EDIT:In Next-Gen engines like UT2k4 and FarCry the Pro outdoes the 6800Ultra, it should PWN the GT

If u crank the settings up, the 6800 is a dieing baby
"In Halo, the GeForce 6800 Ultra can eke out a slim lead. This is due in great part to the fact that we tested without anisotropic filtering."'
I run 16xAF so...What do you think Id want?
The FSAA on NVIDIA Cards makes them unplayable, check the UT2k4 Specs under Image Quality

o yeh and the X800Pro and XT are clocked higher then the 6800Ultra
tomshardware is about the least credible reviewing site around though

here's the conclusion of a hexus review:
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I said in my review of the X800 PRO that "It may pay to see what NVIDIA have to offer in the same price range". The performance analysis of the 6800 GT in this article shows that the statement was very prudent.

Given that they're both playing in the slightly sub-£300 price range, the 6800 GT offers up compelling performance, matching or besting the X800 PRO in almost all of the tests, and when it's not beating the X800 PRO it's very close. With better OpenGL performance from the X800 PRO it'd be tempting to split the recommendation between the two, but at the time of writing the GT definitely gets my personal nod over the X800 PRO.

Its performance is competitive with the Ultra for the most part, and NVIDIA may wonder in the future why they clocked it so close. I use an Athlon FX-51 for my testing and while it's not the fastest CPU on the planet these days, it's damn close. CPU limitation is still hard to overcome, so choosing the GT is wise.

The performance of the plain 6800 comes in just where it should, with around 70% of the GT's performance in most cases. If NVIDIA are able to tweak the 128MB texture/data overflow case in a few apps, the 6800 looks great for those looking to spend around £200. It's usefully faster than a 9800XT in most DX9-class titles.

The 6800 Ultra and Radeon X800 XT PE remain high-end curiousities at the time of writing. It's been some 2-3 months after their initial releases and you still cannot find a major retailer stocking more than a hundred or so of either, with batches selling out almost instantly. While the GT suffers the same problem just now, NVIDIA assure me, however you wish to take it, that the GT is just about to make a big splash at retail, with them getting much better yeilds on NV40 cores in the 350MHz range just now.

What strikes me most is the performance difference the entire range of product from both IHVs has over the outgoing generation of parts. They all make 9800XT and 5950 Ultra look very very silly indeed. Something for everyone from £200 upwards.
oh, and the 6800gt is faster than the x800xt pe in doom 3
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