x800 Pro Vs 6800GT

[interman]

Originally posted by kistell@Aug 13 2004, 01:02 PM
"you need reasonably specialized stuff to do it,"
sorry but to mod a x800 is extreamy easy all you need is a screwdriver and a rear windscreen heater repair kit from halfords or any other car shop! and a sharp knife!

um how many have u done personaly none! i expect so how can u comment.

specialised i think not!!

also i have modded pleny of diffrent makes 0f x800`s and so far i have had 95% pass rate.

as for bench marking many reviews use a freshly built system, how many people in the real world have a fresh built system from scratch with new o/s with no other apps ect,

they tend to use all brand new parts,

i would take a good guess most people out in the field have many 2nd hand parts and old parts in there system ,
also it is fact quality of hard ware reflects the quality of out put from a graphics card!

your not talking to a kid now!

so to your reply what actual help did it help to a question! non you strike me as nothing but a troll!
looking to pick holes in some one who knows there stuff try harder next time!

well there are several ways of doing it, but amusingly most of the people I've spoken to and read about have ended up with the same 12 pipelines they started with, and these are guys far, far up on the ORB list. the vmods on the other hand are easy

>they tend to use all brand new parts,
do you actually read reviews at all? if you look at system specs in reviews at different sites than hardocp, anandtech and hexus you'll see more "common" hardware. additionally, high end vidcards today will suffer from extremely bottlenecks (in many benchmarks) when used with anything mid-end, that is unless you run it at 1600x1200 with 4-8xAA, so to clearly see an objective difference between vidcards you can't be using old junk. however, if you know how to optimize your os installation there's no reason at all why you'd need a fresh install everytime you benchmark a vidcard. it will help when you're tweaking 3dmark01 or whatever, but far from as much as choosing the right driver, right directx version, etc.

>i would take a good guess most people out in the field have many 2nd hand parts and old parts in there system ,
guess is the keyword here.

[Hitman47]

GeForce 6800 Gt all the way. I like MSI pacage, they have good games.

[kistell]

oh dear oh dear!!

you have some how lost the plot and are not following what we origionaly were talking about!!

first off a few quick questions how many x800 cards have you modded personaly?
im not intrested what a friend told you or a friend of a friend.

chinese wispers springs to mind!

if you are also going to talk about bottle necks and hardware lets go, how much do you really know about system archetecture? do you even know what a pipeline is apart from a buzz word you read on a forum or review?

also you tend to make out the average user has all new high spec parts in there systems, unlike me and obviousley your self as you make out , most people are not so fortunate, just look through the forums at peoples specs, hmmm
also your welcome to come to my workshop and see the quality of pcs ect i get in from the average user!

benchmarks in lab tests do not reflect the real world because a majority of people do not have the funds or resources or knowlage to put them together!

which is why when i said reviews do not reflect the real world!

so insted posting to people with graphs and figures you found on the web,
give peolple real advise like i did and give a real life answer!

most people would benifit from a decent set up and some good advise,

as for the answer in question on this thread it was, is it worth swapping!! the answer from me was no!!

is he honestly going to see a big diffrence in speed, nope! unless he is going to do like i suspect you do sit on hiss sorry ass all day running benchmarks and looking at fps! my self i cant see the point.

if a game looks its best and runs smooth whats the problem.

[loserII]

try this :thumbup: if your sick of Ati and Nvidia this is a nice alternitive it will be my new card soon yay :thumbup: and i'm getting it with 512 of memory

[ThunderBoy]

Err... those arent' really gaming cards, they're for modeling and what not. :Oo:

is he honestly going to see a big diffrence in speed, nope! unless he is going to do like i suspect you do sit on hiss sorry ass all day running benchmarks and looking at fps! my self i cant see the point.

No I do not sit on my arse all day!... somtimes I might shuffle my bulk to the kitchen and get another turkey leg out of the fridge!

My question was should I swap the cards in terms of future-proofing my current setup, however, if you had read all the replies so far, you would of realised that I am now buying a complete new setup.

...and as for saying a straight out 'No!' well are you saying that I would be better off with a 12 pipeline x800 or a 16 pipeline 6800! think straight man, think straight! The GT is the better card out of the 2, apart from when running HL2...

[Strawberry knight]

I dont have the time to read all of the posts ...

but have you seen X800 XT Platinum Edition ? ..it has :

16 Pixel Pipelines
6 Vertex Shaders
160 Mio. Transistors
520 MHz Core Frequency
560 MHz Memory Frequency
256-bit Memory Interface
GDDR3 Memory

compared to the PRO :

12 Pixel Pipelines
6 Vertex Shaders
160 Mio. Transistors
475 MHz Core Frequency
450 MHz Memory Frequency
256-bit Memory Interface
GDDR3 Memory

the problem is that it cost 100$ more then the PRO (499$)

[Cyborggunner]

The thing is though all over this you want a card with the latest DX9 support and you willwant Nvidia 6800 as they are doing support for the upcomeing DX9c as for ati x800 it says (in my custom pc magaziene) that ati has only supported the DX9b so what would be better if ATI and Nvidia joined up together as a team they could produce the ultimate graphics card!!

[Sepht]

And the company would be shutdown, monopoly.

If u want the best DirectX performance for games not using SM3.0(only farcry uses it right now) you want the ATi

For OpenGL and Farcry 1.2 you want Nvidia.

Good point sepht, but DirectX9.1b support is only going to get you so far in terms of new games... Remember, Nvidia has invested significantly in the development of new graphics engines and indeeds hold a majority share of future titles under the arm of the T.W.I.M.T.B.P marketing strategy.

ATI have an awful lot of catching up in this area, IMHO. (Its the truth though!)

IMHO, in the very near future, hardware sites will be benchmarking in alternate modes for ATI Radeon cards than Nvidia. Shader Model (SM3.0) wil be the required 'AAA' standard in all good games released in the next 18 months. Nvidia have invested better than ATI and will produce proprietory technology in the mass-market that will ensure they take a foothold in the gaming industry. ATI have and still to this day rely on the gambled prospects of Half-Life 2. Which is quite a lackluste response... So this is quite a complete reversal from last year, when ATI proudly held the roost. Well done Nvidia for turning it around on its head... Credit where credit is due! As a 1st time ATI buyer, I wish I had stuck to my guns and remained an Nvidia fan-boy... Ah well "Shit Happens!"...