Alienware is a rip off

[Orion]

Are you serious? You got problems kid. I wrote a few paragraphs about how I disagreed with Alienware's $500 surcharge and now this shit.

You assume way too much. I never responded with the thought that I was more intelligent than you but after your latest post anyone in this forum can tell you must not be too "inteligent" if you need to result to insults to prove your point. You are telling me to buy myself an education? Read over what you wrote "dipshit." Econimics huh. Hurricane is with 2 r's and community is with 2 m's. And don't give me that "oh there is a huricane and I was typing fast" bullshit. You even had to lower yourself with the "your move" comment. f**king pathetic.

The BMW example relates to all cars. If you know what you are doing, you don't pay full price when buying a car regardless if the BMW is more luxurious than others.

If you truly think Alienware is overpriced because of parts and labour, than you are f**king delusional. I listed the exact same parts, well almost, Alienware was using to build the system I configured. And if you knew anything about business than you would know Alienware orders in bulk, therefore, in case you didn't know, the hardware prices are lower. It would cost me $177 for a Pentium 4 2.8E while it would cost them less than $177. The fact that they buy the parts for less money increases the profit margin even more. So instead of being ripped off by $500, you are now being ripped off by more than $500. It doesn't cost them anywhere near $500 to cover the labour either but you already knew this. We can only guess how much the people who put the systems together make an hour but it is safe to say they don't make anywhere near $100 an hour.

Economics is not greed. Greed is a separate entity and you know it. It may play a part but it does not define economics. Economics is a social science concerned chiefly with description and analysis of the production, distribution, and consumption of goods and services. Greed comes after. I know businesses are in business to make money but the people who run the business decide how much extra they want to charge their customers.

Neither of us is more correct than the other so get off your high horse. Address the issue, a $500 extra is too much. This was my whole argument from the beginning.

[Sepht]

Alienware costs more because of customer support and absolute perfection in their systems.

[Brian1f1]

Orion YOU are a stupid dumb ass. The goal in any company is profit. Whether for share holders, or in the case of a non-public company, the owners. They deserve and absolutly need to make as much as possible. As you likely would not know, The individuals in question likely have a great amount of risk associated with their investment. If the company falters, its their loan, there house, their lives. You can not fault them. CERTAINLY not since there is so much competion in the pre fab computer markert. Its not as if you don't have many small company choices as well as many mega companies to chose from. My advice is to get the education, (although experience certainly could help as well) and with hold judgement. You clearly have not a clue what it is like to be trying to make it in this world of extreme competion. You have to fight for every dollar. Now if you were talking about wal-mart raping and pillageing town after town with endless greed. Then maybe I could stomach you. As of now, I cannot.... :bucky!: Bring it ON!

[Nxs]

Originally posted by Sarafan Lord@Aug 13 2004, 01:20 PM
Alienware and Falcon Northwest are indeed overpriced, but it's basically a case of "you get what you pay for". If you got the technical skills to assemble a system on your own, then that's clearly the cheapest and (in most cases) smartest way to go. If you don't have the technical skills, then choosing either of those companies ensures that you'll get a top of the line system tweaked to perfection with customer service that really IS customer service.

And i wouldn't recommend picking up a Geforce 6800 ultra right away. There aren't any games out there right now that require that kind of power, and there won't be for quite some time. Better to wait a few months and let the price drop, unless of course you have money to burn.

That says it best!

[Brian1f1]

If I was in that f**king hurricane I would be mis-typing too... I hope he is alright. Orion you are truely ignorant.

[darkgod]

Originally posted by Orion@Aug 13 2004, 04:14 AM
Hello peoples. It has been a long time. I will get straight to the point. I already post this on a different forum so I am just copying and pasting. Let me know if you agree or disagree.

just to let you guys know all you are doing is paying for the name ALIENWARE i built my desktop for 1200 bucks and its just as good as anything out there in my eyes i know everybody has there diffrent views but here is my comps specs

motherboard--2.8ghz p4 dual channel 400ddr sata150(1.5gb/s) 1000mhz system bus hyperthreaded
grafics--- 256 ddr nvidia gforce 5500oc
sound--- gamemuse 5.1 dds
memory--- 1g ddr kingston hyperthread
hd space dual 200g 10000rpm hard drives
dvd/cd rw

enjoy


to command the future you must conquer the past to command the past you must conquer the future--kain c&c :thumbup:

[Sepht]

Originally posted by darkgod@Aug 14 2004, 05:14 AM
motherboard--2.8ghz p4 dual channel 400ddr sata150(1.5gb/s) 1000mhz system bus hyperthreaded
grafics--- 256 ddr nvidia gforce 5500oc
memory--- 1g ddr kingston hyperthread

First, you never stated your motherboard

Second, Your CPU has no need to be overclocked just to get 2.8ghz(thats what 1000mhz fsb means.... it means you overclocked)
Third, Hyperthreading slows down load times(for me) and makes my system less stable and fycus's system unplayable
Forth, there is no such thing as a 5500(and the 5600 IS A FLAT OUR HORRIBLE CHIPSET COMPARED TO THE NVIDIA Geforce 6800 Ultra, and a 5600 shouldn't need 256 ram, its not powerful enough to earn it(setting that need 256 would kill the chipset's performance)
Fifth, you can't hyperthread ram
6th, your specs are all over the place, keep them tight.

[Orion]

Right Brian, that is why ABS can build the exact same system, monitor included, for less money. Oh but wait, they don't have to compete with Alienware right?

Instead of just saying whether you thought Alienware was overpriced or not you decide to bring up all this other shit. Everyone else got my point and there have been some good responses. I understand what you are saying and I am fully aware of everything you mentioned. You know very well that I am smart. You can tell just by reading my posts. So next time you wake up on the wrong side of the bed, rub one off real quick before you rant and make yourself look like an idiot because you did a good job at that.

And who the f**k is dumb enough to stay home and write a post when there is a hurricane right outside. hubaleet didn't write the post while it was right outside. He had plenty of time. He just can't f**king spell or apply grammer.

Mod, please lock this. Thanks.

[blueviper42]

"Forth, there is no such thing as a 5500"

actually, there is such a thing as a 5500. You can get them from vicious PC and lots of other computer making companies.


And yes, alienware is overpriced in my opinion. You pretty much are paying just to have the alien ware logo and case.

I built my computer for $1100 and I got this:

Aopen K8t800
A64 3200+ newcastle core
512MB PC 3200
Sapphire radeon 9800 pro 128 MB
80 GB SATA
Aspire turbo case with side window and 350 WATT PSU
AOC 19" pure flat monitor(so it claims)


the alien ware with that would no doubt be at least $1800.

[Sepht]

ah, still the 5500, even the 5950U is no match for the 6800.
and neither is a saphire 9800 pro