Alienware is a rip off

[Orion]

Hello peoples. It has been a long time. I will get straight to the point. I already post this on a different forum so I am just copying and pasting. Let me know if you agree or disagree.

I was thinking of buying a new system from Alienware but after I configured a system the total came out to over $2,000. Without a monitor. I thought to myself I must have picked something out that I didn't want or need so I reviewed what I had picked out and the total was still over $2,000. WTF. $2,000 for a system without a monitor? ****ing fruitcakes are smoking some seriously good crack. Anyways I decided that if I was going to spend $2,000 on a system I might as well build it myself.

Asus P5AD2 Premium mainboard $273
Intel P4 2.8E 2MB 1MB cache $179
512MB DDR2 at 667MHz $245
NVIDIA Geforce 6800 Ultra $424
80GB Seagate HDD $65.50
LiteOn 16X DVD-ROM $29.99
480W PSU $87
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream chassis $129
Dell Deluxe Keyboard/Mouse combo $31

Total: $1463.49

FFS that is over $600 in savings. Keep in mind, the system I configured above is almost identical to Alienware's $2,000 system. The main differences are the case, of course, the powersupply and the keyboard/mouse combo. BTW I chose the Dell combo because everything is USB and since I already have a combo and love it I didn't bother looking at other options. And Alienware's case is not 100% aluminum. It is mostly plastic and SECC 0.8mm steel. I have seen their case in person. It is a POS and weighs alot.

I would love to own an Alienware system just because their systems look cool and because they spend time optimizing the system but come on, $2,000 for a system without a monitor is just ridiculous.

[Fycus]

everybody knows alienware PC's are extremely overpriced. They are good tho, if you are too lazy to build one.

[Sepht]

They are overpriced, but the way their systems work is magical, if you got the money(rich boy, say 3-5K for a computer budget) then go ahead and get the alienware, their system components flow together seemlessly and they work like magic, also the customer support is top notch.

[Hitman47]

thats some expensive mobo. Why do you want such an expensive modo? ;) .Yeah Alienware is over priced you can try www.ibuypower.com which has good pcs and cheaper parts. I would only buy Alienware because of dual vid cards, other than that NO WAY in hell!

[SprigganX]

well nvidia is coming out with the SLI so you dont really need an alienware.

[hulabaleet]

if your going to spend 1.5 grand on a computer... why the hell would u pick such a crappy processor.
a motherboard half that price and an amd 64 bit would whoop that intels ass.


oh and about alien wares prices, its called buisness smart ass.
if you were going to build full computers and sell them to people wouldnt you charge more.
all prebuilt computers are "overpriced", why? becuase people dont want to build them thierself.(at least stupid people hehehe)
all cars are overpriced, why? because people dont want to build them thier self.
welcome to the economic system.

btw to get an idea why they sell so high priced, read the forums to a game like say... matrix online. the people are flat out retarded .
heres some things they say. "1.6 ghz to run mxo? thats a HUGE number are you sure it isnt 166mhz? and a radeon 9600!! what do you think we are game developrs?" "i have a pentium3 1.1mhz and 128mb of ram can i play mxo?" "i have a 1.6ghz and 768mb of ram and a geforce mx can i play mxo?"
these people are retarded crackheads. if u want a good laugh read this forum thread :
http://thematrixonlineboards.warnerbros.co...tart=0&tstar t=0

[Sepht]

If you have a <600 doller budget, make a AthlonXP/P4 system,(gap of choice) if you got over 700 go for Athlon64, if you have over 2.5-3K...

[Sarafan Lord]

Alienware and Falcon Northwest are indeed overpriced, but it's basically a case of "you get what you pay for". If you got the technical skills to assemble a system on your own, then that's clearly the cheapest and (in most cases) smartest way to go. If you don't have the technical skills, then choosing either of those companies ensures that you'll get a top of the line system tweaked to perfection with customer service that really IS customer service.

And i wouldn't recommend picking up a Geforce 6800 ultra right away. There aren't any games out there right now that require that kind of power, and there won't be for quite some time. Better to wait a few months and let the price drop, unless of course you have money to burn.

[Orion]

hulabaleet, did you read my entire post?

Keep in mind, the system I configured above is almost identical to Alienware's $2,000 system.

I was trying to build a system almost identical to Alienware's regardless of personal preference.

I don't where you have been but not ALL prebuilt computers are overpriced. For example, back in March I spent $350 on a Dell with an Intel Pentium 4 2.8C, 875P mainboard, 40GB HDD, 128MB of DDR-RAM, and no OS. 128MB of RAM is not much but I did not mind because I knew I could always add more memory and still be saving big time. Even if I were to add a monitor and a Radeon 9800XT, I would still be under $1000 for a decent gaming rig.

The analogy you made, "all cars are overpriced, why? because people dont want to build them thier self," is absurd. The reason is no one knows exactly how much it costs to build, for example, a BMW 325 coupe. The only price most consumers are aware of is the "sticker" price. Only people who do not do their research pay sticker price. If you know the invoice price than you pay $500 or 15% over invoice. Oh and if you knew exactly how much it cost BMW to make a 325 coupe, good luck having BMW sell it to you below the invoice price.

The reason why Alienware is overpriced has nothing to do with economics, smartass. Instead it has everything to do with greed. Next time, try and hold yourself back and do without the smartass comment and the whole I-know-more-than-everyone-else-attitude. Then you won't get flamed in return.

[hulabaleet]

this is the part i like.
where u prove your own self a royaly f**king dumb ass.
first off econimics IS greed, and the primary word was buisness, econonics was a closure to my statement, dipshit. ever heard of supply and demand?
i was making examples u overated fag, but hear this.
My examples were not wrong.
you can buy a pair of tommy hilfiger designer jeans for 90 dollars, did it cost them 90 to make? no. so why sell it for so much? several reasons , one being profit which is obivous and is fair game in the buisness world, but the other being the fact that people are willing to pay that much. so they spend no more than 10$ in the most extreme case to make those jeans, sell it for 90, pay off the workers, and make 70 dollars profit. as for your little BMW example, nice move but pulling the luxury alternative into the mess was a stupid thing to do. anyone who can afford a car like that would obviously have the buisness knoledge to get what they payed for and to not be overpriced. my example leaned towards the idiots of our comunity, ya know, the kinda people one step below you. you know them, ill assume you were raised by these kinds of people. the people who buy ford expeditions, the people who counter my inteligent post thinking they are more inteligent.
as of this moment im stuck in a huricane category 4, so far only 70 mile per hour winds but it just hit my town, so ill make this fast.
get acustomed to these two phrases:
DIY (thats do it yourself, incase u didnt know)
and "PARTS AND LABOUR"
you can buy a fancy model ship "handcrafted" for 400 dollars, or you can buy the kit for 40 dollars and DIY. keeping in mind the DIY job is not likely to look as good when your done as the professionaly done one, especialy if you have never built a model before.
Same goes with computers.
heres 2 reasons the alienwares are overpriced
1. PARTS
2. LABOUR

also keeping in mind they work perfectly, theyve been tested so that all of the parts work together, all of the software works together, nothing you dont need, everything you do, theyre assembled by professionals, they back great customer suport which is a must have for people like... say... your parents. finalized factory tested award wining products tend to cost a little bit more than DIY, its called logic, its called buisness, its called reality.

well water is leaking into my house so ill retire for now,

how bout taking that 500 dollars you saved and
buy yerself sum ejukashin
your move.
:starwars: