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Old 10-22-2005, 07:54 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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Old 10-22-2005, 08:53 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
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Maybe he is bad at spelling, but that isn't the revealing quality here, the point is he's a dumbass.

FEAR feels more like Doom3 then Quake4 does. Quake4 may look it, and have airlocks, zoom, control panels, shadows, and a indoor-futuristic-military base look and all these other things that the Doom3 engine provides, that no other engine has really incorporated, but gameplay wise? the games feel completely different, Quake is fast paced, your constantly with soliders, and your blasting away clear enemies, rolling through in vechiles. Doom is much slower, has no teammates, enemies pop out of corners, and is played in complete darkness. FEAR on the other hand, your pretty much as solo as in Doom3, with just a radio to talk to you, and you have suspsensful music, and shit poping out at you from random places, oh and while in Quake you pretty much have a constant supply of enemies, in FEAR and Doom you wander through hallways waiting for enemies to come up.

EDIT: I've had some wonderful Quake2 Flashbacks though in the SP.
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Old 10-22-2005, 11:46 PM   #23 (permalink)
 
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Let me guess , you`re a quake fan ?... Predictable reply "hes a dumbass and quake is cool".... If this game would be a total load of crap , guys like you would still buy it and say its cool beacuse of the legend that is q2 , q3 and so on... Thats what being a fan is all about , staying with the team for better or worse , i congratulate you for that , but dont call me a dumbass just because i have a different opinion .

Quake is at least 50% doom3 , you said it yourself , why ? because the game developers have to get paid and quake being a successfull francize doesnt need a lot of work , and using an existing engine is a good way to cut corners for an extra buck.

Why do you think the bonus disk is there ? more content = more money .

Bottom line : i think were all a little dissapointed , even you my dumbass friend , and even the guy that`s been modifing my posts , probably because he got tired of walking around pushing buttons and came here to show off his frustration .
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Old 10-23-2005, 12:31 AM   #25 (permalink)
 
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Let me guess , you`re a quake fan ?... Predictable reply "hes a dumbass and quake is cool".... If this game would be a total load of crap , guys like you would still buy it and say its cool beacuse of the legend that is q2 , q3 and so on... That what being a fan is all about , staying with the team for better or worse , i congratulate you for that , but dont call me a dumbass just because i have a different opinion .

Quake is at least 50% doom3 , you said it yourself , why ? because the game developers have to get paid thand quake being a successfull francize doesnt need a lot of work , and using an existing engine is a good way to cut corners for an extra buck.

Why do you think the bonus disk is there ? more content = more money .

Bottom line : i think were all a little dissapointed , even you my dumbass friend , and even e guy that`s been modifing my posts , probably because he got tired of walking around pushing buttons and came here to show off his frustration .
If anything, I'm a fan of multiplayer games and Deathmatch. as for being a fanboy of anything? not really

I'm not trashing on you because you have a different opinion, I'm trashing on you because your an idiot. Examples?

"they copied everything from doom 3"
"DOOM 3 , or was it QUAKE 4 ... i dunno , i kind of confuse them , since THEY ARE THE SAME !" I explained exactly how similar the gameplay is
" Thats not what i wrote , some wise guy must have edited my post " Look back at your post, nothing was edited.
"more content = more money"
"quake being a successfull francize doesnt need a lot of work" Yes because making hours of gameplay, and tons of levels and features takes no work at all...
Oh and the fact that you can't spell to save your life.

Listen, Quake4 is a simply fun game, it uses the Doom3 engine why? because the Doom3 engine is one of the best on the market right now. iD has always had a solid API to work with, just look at all the games that came from Quake3's engine. No other commercial engine out there right now can reproduce the lighting, the UI(control panels, mouseover effects, the radio stuff, the mission objectives), and the cross-platform capability that the Doom3 engine currently offers. Yes, even when UE3 becomes commercially available, Doom3's engine will still be a very viable alternative.

Now that I've addressed the fact that your a certifiable dumbass, here are some reasons for why Quake isn't so "dissappointing."

Now exactly why where you disappointed? the game is fun, it looks good, sounds good, runs good, and with the multiplayer and mod-base of the community, thats pretty solid. Yeh, the game doesn't have anything amazingly new or innovative, but it's still a solid game, I just don't understand how much of a spoiled brat you have to be to say a solid game is disappointing.

Yeh I think it's a shame that the Quake franchise is no longer evolving multiplayer gaming, but we all knew that was coming (check the Fall of iD thread if you still don't get it). But the multiplayer mode is still pretty damn good, one of my Top5 MP games. Between, BF2, UT2k4, CSS/DoDS/HL2 and Q4, there is most of this generation's good MP gaming, and I don't think any gamer that appreciates MP would deny Q4 a spot on their Top 5 MP games available right now. As for SP, the more I play, the more it seems like a mix of CoD, Halo, and Quake2 in the Doom3 engine.
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Old 10-23-2005, 01:43 AM   #26 (permalink)
 
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What are the key elements of a succesfull game ? I`d say athmosphere , originality , sound and graphics , gameplay , etc... Now q4 has "call of duty" athmosphere , wich doesnt say much about originality , graphics that resemble another game from the same category wich again is another point less for originality ,and even the same biomechanical monsters from doom3 . The gameplay wich other than having a nice dinamic fell sometimes is just another run-and-gun game .

And i didnt say anything about the multiplayer , wich is great indeed . I was talking about the singleplayer . Personally i respect a game that can make a big name for itself from nothing , not some "primadona" that has all the comunity behind it to back it up so it doesnt have to worry for bad reviews.

I never said quake 4 was bad , i only said it was a dissapointement. Its like watching a movie just because of the famous actors . Its worth playing but all the hype over the singleplayer seems fake. It has the same done-to-death pattern , maybe inspiration at ID is running low...

You can say what you want after this , im done arguing with you. At least come up with something new , dumbass is getting old.
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Old 10-23-2005, 02:09 AM   #27 (permalink)
 
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What are the key elements of a succesfull game ? I`d say athmosphere , originality , sound and graphics , gameplay , etc... Now q4 has "call of duty" athmosphere , wich doesnt say much about originality , graphics that resemble another game from the same category wich again is another point less for originality ,and even the same biomechanical monsters from doom3 . The gameplay wich other than having a nice dinamic fell sometimes is just another run-and-gun game .

And i didnt say anything about the multiplayer , wich is great indeed . I was talking about the singleplayer . Personally i respect a game that can make a big name for itself from nothing , not some "primadona" that has all the comunity behind it to back it up so it doesnt have to worry for bad reviews.

I never said quake 4 was bad , i only said it was a dissapointement. Its like watching a movie just because of the famous actors . Its worth playing but all the hype over the singleplayer seems fake. It has the same done-to-death pattern , maybe inspiration at ID is running low...

You can say what you want after this , im done arguing with you. At least come up with something new , dumbass is getting old.
Quake4 has it's own atmosphere, constant fragging, larger enemies, bosses, saying that it's mirroring Call of Duty is idiotic. Also, saying that it's "hyped" is just as stupid, No one has said Quake4 has the best single player ever, we've all stated that it's simply fun and solid. It's not at the same level as FarCry, or Call of Duty, or Halo, or MoHAA, or HL2 were in SP, but it's a lot better then most MP games do for single player (see UT2k4, BF2, Q3A).

Running and gunning with larger and larger enemies in thicker and thicker swarms is the fun of Quake (and imitated in games like Serious Sam), if you don't like it then this isn't a game for you, bugger off. No one said Quake4 was going to be innovative or unique, just that it would be fun; it has a single player that, in it's own right, is probably the best single player done in any iD franchises.

The single player is fun, I don't know how far you've gotten, but I've had trouble prying myself away throughout the day. As for inspiration at iD running low, Q4 wasn't even made by iD, and everyone knows that iD is dieing as a company, just read the Fall of iD thread.

besides the fact that you can't spell worth shit, you don't know how to use commas(it's word-comma-space-word not word-space-comma-space), and it's not just a typo, thats how you do all your commas, what are you, 8 years old and in America's public education system? come back when you can properly utilize a language.

P.S. Dumbass is getting old? I called you a "dumbass" once, and an idiot the second time, a "certifiable dumbass" the third time, this time, your just a dillusional buffoon.
P.P.S. okay you obviously don't know how to spell certian words, your mispelling them all the damn time. "dinamic" is dynamic. "wich" is which. "dissapointed" is "disappointed"
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"dillusional" is "delusional"....sry I just had to

C'mon give the guy a break. So he doesnt like Q4...this is all JDub's fault you know, hey JDub get back in here! :P
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theres no point to argue about this, Quake 4 is already out and everybody can play it and have their own opinion, thats just the way it is, some people somehow were dissapointed by Half Life 2 or Doom 3 and honestly i dont know what they were expecting from these games but to me they were worth the wait, yet theres people that didnt like them, like a friend of mine, he rather play Buffy the vampire slayer on PS2 or Xbox and then said that Doom 3 and F.E.A.R suck big time and well i guess you know what my thoughts were since i like both games :thumbup: but i think ill never play Buffy even if it comes out with the PS3 graphics now that i know a bit more about Quake 4 and the multiplayer rocks for what i read here, ill get it sooner that i thought, i used to play Quake III Arena alot and i hope to see you guys online or maybe gamershell can set up a server for us :P
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"dillusional" is "delusional"....sry I just had to

C'mon give the guy a break. So he doesnt like Q4...this is all JDub's fault you know, hey JDub get back in here! :P
don't reveal the subtle jokes lol!

the postscripts about insulting him and mentioning his typos are both filled with misspelled words, actually as far as I know, those are the only spelling errors in the whole damn post!

It's like when people asks for a CD-key on the GH3D Forums and you do something like " Use G0A-W4YY-OUD4-MNR3-T4R0", which for those that don't catch it says:
GoA-wayY-ouDa-mnRetard
Go Away You Damn Retard

All that arguing and you ruin my one bit of intentional irony
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