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yeah man, wherew is the link. everyone knows the 360 got a 120% failure rate


PS: my book is gonna take a while since i got my job. but i hope you cnan buy a shitload before xmas hits your wallet XD

Originally posted by Bucky@Sep 9 2007, 10:20 PM
Sony has a consumer electronics division AND a games division. They are NOT one in the same. Bloomberg very clearly states that the funds will likely find their way into the Consumer Electronics (Bravia) and Games Division (PS3).

Yes, it's one and the same. Perhaps you should look up the definition of division and figure out that the company is devised into several electronics divisions (tv's, radios, etc etc) All of those are referred to under the same name, and collected in one whole part. Financial analyst means someone who makes assumptions, in this case even without some real evidence. Funds will likely find their way into, means "we are just guessing, but it must be true without having any hard solid evidence to back it up"

You sure are no accountant, if you were you would have known that the financial loss of the console is not necessarily that off the entire division, that's why my second link gave you almost all numbers and not just some digit on a web page, figure it out yourself and if you don't know anything about numbers then don't judge them. Just look at the numbers and the good ones this time! There is never enough profit for a company with shareholders and all projects that will continue to make a loss will be sold or aborted. In my search I even came across a bunch of links that said the original xbox would make a profit before the end of 2004, lmao, they never made a dime on that one.

The failure rate is taken from a survey amongst retailers and customers and not from MS of course. Ms will never really admit to rates of failure being high or issues with software (vista anybody?) or anything like that.
Wikipedia technical issues link.
30% failure rate link.

Google for the rest of the digits yourself, also the number of reports on broken 360's have risen dramatic since Bioshock was released. Users simply went on gaming for hours and hours on end, and with that overheating their 360.

Fanboys surely are people who trust in any speculation without being able to judge numbers themselves or interpreted them. Your just grasping at straws here and don't even have the decency of saying my other figures about console sales or games that are released a year after the launch of the 360 are true. You are the definition of a fanboy that has spend way too much time powerleveling in Azeroth and thinks he knows all about the changed market upon his return. You missed a shitload on info while playing with your guild and completely dissapearing from GH.

That being said, I know we both disagree on many things, right now as we have done in the past and most likely will always continue to do so, but I'm glad you came back from that time, money, life and mind absorbing game you old demented geezer

Originally posted by Gazz@Sep 10 2007, 02:58 AM


The failure rate is taken from a survey amongst retailers and customers and not from MS of course. Ms will never really admit to rates of failure being high or issues with software (vista anybody?) or anything like that.
Wikipedia technical issues link.
30% failure rate link.

So, you are basing a 30% failure rate on this?

www.current.com.au wrote recently According to an EB Games store manager, who wished to remain anonymous, failure rates for the Xbox 360 have dropped in recent times but still outweigh hardware failures for competing consoles.

"We are definitely getting faulty hardware returns of the Xbox 360, but no-where near as much as we used to when it first came out," he said.

"On initial launch, it was close to 30 per cent of our [Xbox 360s] were coming back faulty".

An anonymous dude in Australia says so and there you have it. You manage to read into financial figures to come out the way you want them to, you can't read a financial statement to understand how divisions work.

By the way... when MS made the choice to enter the console business, Bill announced that they were planning on losing 1B to break into the market. They never planned on making money on the original Xbox.

Well, they ms lost 3.7b on it, so I guess that makes Gates an financial annalist too. Basing figures on nothing but speculation. MS sure never planned to make such a loss on the 360 as they do at this point and it sure got shareholders in a bunch. Not making the promised revenue per share makes them pissed for some reason, go figure.

The failure rates are true, you are just pissed because I made all your other links turn out false and now you are grasping at straws, nothing else. MS was willing to lose a billion to break into the games market, but willing and actually doing so are 2 completely different things. Perhaps you should apply at MS anyway as the guy who brings the bad news. Make sure to tell the suits why the 360 fails so much, why the Zune isn't in the lead in the mp3 player market by a looooooooonnnnggg shot and why getting all the complaints about Vista and lacking sales are not an issue.

What's also funny is that the new standard 51 gb hd-dvd doesn't seem to work on the 360 and why the console only has a 1% share of the Japanese market this month. Then go on and explain why the 360 was so easily cracked and software sales for that b console haven't been able to compensate the loss by even a small margin. Good luck :thumbup:

don't forget that the PS3 cost fucking 300 USD (recalculatet) in japan, instead of ridiculas 600 monkeyballs. We, the once living in the west, pay for those lil tiny dicks paycut. LETS BOMB FUJI YAMA!!

Originally posted by Bucky+Sep 10 2007, 12:20 PM-->