Psystar delivers first open mac pc's - Page 2

KamisoriX · 04-29-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard_Rahl

Apple made a operating system, and doesn't allow people to use it on a pc of their own choice. Instead you need to either buy an overpriced system or make a "hackingtosh" (hoping to not get compatibillity issues because of its hardware).
That is what I call dumb...

i sense lotsa hate from you. tell me about your childhood so we can find the source of your anger

BuffaloChips · 04-29-2008, 07:07 PM

This is so stupid!

Richard_Rahl · 04-29-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KamisoriX

i sense lotsa hate from you. tell me about your childhood so we can find the source of your anger

Kami, even Windows is a more open platform than Mac. I don not think it is good at all that Apple "rules" over their users that much. When I buy an OS, I want to be the one who decides on what hardware it runs and what I do with it. Not that Apple, MS or whatever large enterprise is making a large part of that decisions.

BuffaloChips · 04-30-2008, 12:12 AM

MS doesn't rule like Apple though.

Edit: That came out wrong . . . . .

They rule over the kinds of hardware, that is.

Richard_Rahl · 04-30-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BuffaloChips

MS doesn't rule like Apple though.

Edit: That came out wrong . . . . .

They rule over the kinds of hardware, that is.

I know, Apple does it the most, at second place is MS. I suppose it is obvious why Linux is so great

KamisoriX · 05-01-2008, 03:40 AM

I would really like to set up a linux PC but it's practicly useless for what i want a PC for

BuffaloChips · 05-01-2008, 10:06 AM

Me too Kami . . . me too.

Richard_Rahl · 05-01-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KamisoriX

I would really like to set up a linux PC but it's practicly useless for what i want a PC for

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Originally Posted by BuffaloChips

Me too Kami . . . me too.

Then make a dual boot setup. I have done that on both my desktop and my laptop and it works great.
When you install Ubuntu, that OS is quite friendly to other OSses on your system. Its installer simply makes two partitions for itself, without ruining Windows. It comes with the GRUB boot loader and Memtest86+ (to test your RAM).

KamisoriX · 05-02-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard_Rahl

Then make a dual boot setup. I have done that on both my desktop and my laptop and it works great.
When you install Ubuntu, that OS is quite friendly to other OSses on your system. Its installer simply makes two partitions for itself, without ruining Windows. It comes with the GRUB boot loader and Memtest86+ (to test your RAM).

the thing is if i Do that i still have no use for linux. I have my PC for only one purpose and that is to spread my sexyness all over the interweb

BuffaloChips · 05-03-2008, 05:23 PM

Seems that Pystar is getting geared up for the legal battles. Or, at least, there is a lot of talk about that issue.
Aeticle: Lawyers, money needed for Psystar's legal battle | One More Thing - CNET News.com

There are some issues I have that were brought up by this article. For starters is the "shrink wrap" agreements. Judges have said that they are enforceable because you can decline the agreement and NOT install the software. I just wonder if anyone has ever pointed out the fact that once the "shrink wrap" is removed you can't return the software for a refund. Well, at least to the store where you bought it. Then, if you can get the software company to agree to give you a refund, you will have to pay fr shipping to return it to them. Thus losing some of your money for no reason.

Hell, you can't even buy a video game for a console and return it. You should have the opportunity to view the EULA before you make the purchase. They talk about part of the agreement being unconscionable. Well, I think that the "shrink wrap" issue is unconscionable.

Then they allow the argument that the software and hardware make a Mac a Mac? Maybe so, but a Mac isn't the issue, the operating system is. Then there is the fact that the EULA for OS X is actually creating a monopoly. You have to agree that you will not install the OS on a non-Apple labeled computer. How is that not illegal?

How is that any more legal than Billy-boy having those agreements with PC manufacturers years ago stating that they had to pay him a fee per PC manufactured regardless of the OS installed? He actually created a bit of a monopoly back then because manufacturers were not willing to offer any other OS's because they had to pay Bill no matter what.

Lastly, I think that maybe someone should do some kind of study to prove whether or not people would want OS X without having to buy an Apple computer. I might try out the OS on a system where I choose the hardware, not someone else.

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04-29-2008, 07:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
BuffaloChips is on the 3rd circle: Gluttony Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 382 Hellbux: 12,700	This is so stupid!

04-30-2008, 12:12 AM	#14 (permalink)
BuffaloChips is on the 3rd circle: Gluttony Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 382 Hellbux: 12,700	MS doesn't rule like Apple though. Edit: That came out wrong . . . . . They rule over the kinds of hardware, that is.

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BuffaloChips is on the 3rd circle: Gluttony Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 382 Hellbux: 12,700	Me too Kami . . . me too.

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BuffaloChips is on the 3rd circle: Gluttony Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 382 Hellbux: 12,700	Seems that Pystar is getting geared up for the legal battles. Or, at least, there is a lot of talk about that issue. Aeticle: Lawyers, money needed for Psystar's legal battle \| One More Thing - CNET News.com There are some issues I have that were brought up by this article. For starters is the "shrink wrap" agreements. Judges have said that they are enforceable because you can decline the agreement and NOT install the software. I just wonder if anyone has ever pointed out the fact that once the "shrink wrap" is removed you can't return the software for a refund. Well, at least to the store where you bought it. Then, if you can get the software company to agree to give you a refund, you will have to pay fr shipping to return it to them. Thus losing some of your money for no reason. Hell, you can't even buy a video game for a console and return it. You should have the opportunity to view the EULA before you make the purchase. They talk about part of the agreement being unconscionable. Well, I think that the "shrink wrap" issue is unconscionable. Then they allow the argument that the software and hardware make a Mac a Mac? Maybe so, but a Mac isn't the issue, the operating system is. Then there is the fact that the EULA for OS X is actually creating a monopoly. You have to agree that you will not install the OS on a non-Apple labeled computer. How is that not illegal? How is that any more legal than Billy-boy having those agreements with PC manufacturers years ago stating that they had to pay him a fee per PC manufactured regardless of the OS installed? He actually created a bit of a monopoly back then because manufacturers were not willing to offer any other OS's because they had to pay Bill no matter what. Lastly, I think that maybe someone should do some kind of study to prove whether or not people would want OS X without having to buy an Apple computer. I might try out the OS on a system where I choose the hardware, not someone else.