What the hell is wrong with everybody!

yeah, as i said before tha only good clip that looks great about HL2 was the DX9 clip. but it's nowhere in the game to be seen.
Well, i hope they can pull it off, that would be some original ass kickin

Originally posted by KamisoriX@Aug 15 2004, 11:07 PM
yeah, as i said before tha only good clip that looks great about HL2 was the DX9 clip. but it's nowhere in the game to be seen.
Well, i hope they can pull it off, that would be some original ass kickin

Its a cool clip, but its nothign new, Ut2k3-ut2k4-D3-stalker-farcy all look just as good.

(far cry, stalker, i don't know on normal maps, ut2k3-4 i don't think they normal map, not sure)
Normal mapping is amazing... let me show yall some screens.

Originally posted by Sepht@Aug 16 2004, 12:13 AM
Normal mapping is amazing... let me show yall some screens.

Go on, Jack.

Wanna bet an HL2 copy or working unused CD-key or 50 bucks cash on the fact that EBGames will sell boxed copys of HL2 on Sept 2nd 2004? Im willing to say they won't

I concurr. However I'd like to say I would prefer gameplay over graphics any day.

Here they are, doom3, 1024x768, medium settings, high sfx on, spec on, shadows off, aa off, vsync off, and
bump mapping on





BUmp Mapping Off(bump includes normal maps)





Difference in FPS Timedemo, 0.7fps(from 49.9 in run 1, to 50.6) (run 2, was like 1.2 fps dif from 55.0 to 56.2), nearly no drop whatsoever in fps, and clearly no noticable one, and the image quality difference(on the gun, enviroment, and enemys) is amazing

I concurr. However I'd like to say I would prefer gameplay over graphics any day.

I agree, However, saying HL2 or D3 are just graphics is wrong.

Doom3 is for the people who love just good old run and gun blasting zombies with a shotgun, and the graphics add a lot to the gamplay(shadows add the most), maybe 25-40% of the gameplay is graphics, the rest is just good old fun.

HL2 is unknown on the gameplay, you can be sure that graphics willl add something(maybe not as much 5-20% is nearly secured) to the gameplay, probably by flashs, or effects or somethign to do with visiblity of the enemy, probably.

Other then that, there is a thread on gameplay vs graphics. Just a note: No new game will be considered by the market as revolutionary unless its graphics are good(no matter how good the gameplay is a new game with HL1 style graphics will not be considered as a revoultionary stepping stone)

LOL, I never seen any demons with Bumpmap off. but turning shadow off is losing half the fun
Of course gameplay is more important than graphix but HL2 hasn't showed me anything that i consider as original or put in better.
Physic is fun but it doesn't really make the game (yet). we'll wait and see.

OH yeah, images of a new map(that looks already better than anything I have seen from HL2)
Image1
Image2

And while we're at it here is a new DooM3ScreenSaver

D3's gameplay is original and classic, its classic run and gun, but the fps scary/horror element is completely new and original, and to complete it the game's new and modern graphics engine polishs it off, for a mix of good old shooting action on a brand new engine with a brand new scary/horror style.

Shadows is somethign liek 35% worse perforamnce, especially in combat,
Bump mapping is a much larger effect, and one that is used in every piece of doom3, yet has a 1% performance drop and a much more noticable increase in image quality

HL2 i haven't played so i won't say anything.

EDIT
KamisoriX be nice and show us what that exact screen looks like witout bump mapping as that is what the topic has moved to(and a link to download the map)

the map is still WIP but I let ya know when it's out for public.

Hey, the new ScreenSaver Rox Deluxe :thumbup:

you posted the image 2 times, care to remove the second 1?