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10-02-2004, 06:37 AM
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If you insist
A game, which built under 32-bit interface as its own powers: fair transfer rate and memory, is able to produce big scenes and detail including high quality sound. However, at the cost of performance and if you wish to upload even more detail and more complex environments plus richer sound you are more likely to have slow performance and unburnable game play. (On high end machines and moreover on low-mid level machines)
In 64-bit mode, the chip can address far more memory and therefore cut through huge amounts of data much faster than a conventional 32-bit machine, you can build environments that are more complex, richer sound, greater physics, and overall boost in quality. And more important, performance with high stability, all this with no reduction in game play experience, simply faster!
As a small example : Shadow Ops, which makes use of THX 5.1 acoustic sound, is now able to have high details plus rich sound and better quality and stability then they ever could and even more. thanks to 64-bit chips as they said: “Using 32-bit code alone, we were unable to offer THX 5.1 acoustic sound with every level of detail enabled and still maintain a playable game; with AMD64 64-bit technology we can now do that and much more.â€
Stalker which will be out in 2 versions (correct me if I'm wrong) one consist the 32-bit interface platform and the other 64-bit which will enable Stalker use much richer effects, more details, greater fps and better sound and even more. Of course it will remain the same game, but it will be better then the 32-bit interface platform.
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10-02-2004, 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by GrimReaper@Oct 1 2004, 11:37 PM
If you insist
A game, which built under 32-bit interface as its own powers: fair transfer rate and memory, is able to produce big scenes and detail including high quality sound. However, at the cost of performance and if you wish to upload even more detail and more complex environments plus richer sound you are more likely to have slow performance and unburnable game play. (On high end machines and moreover on low-mid level machines)
In 64-bit mode, the chip can address far more memory and therefore cut through huge amounts of data much faster than a conventional 32-bit machine, you can build environments that are more complex, richer sound, greater physics, and overall boost in quality. And more important, performance with high stability, all this with no reduction in game play experience, simply faster!
As a small example : Shadow Ops, which makes use of THX 5.1 acoustic sound, is now able to have high details plus rich sound and better quality and stability then they ever could and even more. thanks to 64-bit chips as they said: “Using 32-bit code alone, we were unable to offer THX 5.1 acoustic sound with every level of detail enabled and still maintain a playable game; with AMD64 64-bit technology we can now do that and much more.â€
Stalker which will be out in 2 versions (correct me if I'm wrong) one consist the 32-bit interface platform and the other 64-bit which will enable Stalker use much richer effects, more details, greater fps and better sound and even more. Of course it will remain the same game, but it will be better then the 32-bit interface platform.
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But its not that much, it bsaically makes the CPU based performance more efficent.
A lot of the things ur mentioning are much mroe dependant on Video card and Sound card.
and its not built under.
its compiled on
transfer rate doesn't change, memory mangement doesn't change in 64bit. I don't know how much credit Id give to 64bit extensions, they help, but not noticably as much as the memory controler or fast FSb or hypertransport.
hmm... stalker having a 64bit binary... could be useful, but it sounds more like an advertising and marketing trick then something that really will be productive. Until its moved onto a 64bit OS, there isn't much whiggle space.(it could also be using a 32 bit D3D lib in which case...)
Again, not revolutionary, its been done before. the OpenSource community and os gaming community have long been compiling 64 bit versions, and Ut2k4 had one of the first 64bit binaries.
however, calling it a "64bit game" is not something that is actually correct.
Too much stuff thats attributed to "AMD64 64-bit technology" has nothing to do with the AMD64's 64 bit extensions. it just doesn't. most of the performance increases that we see today are just the memory controler, fsb, and hypertransport.
64bit doesn't really add much
( http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/amd%20a...410724/3008.png )
64bit isn't ready for gaming.
we need a decent OS(linux is gtreat for it, but no DX), decent 64bit drivers, decent written 64bit code(not just 32 conversions), before we see ANYTHING.
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We just need to wait and see. A completely 64-bit interface game has not been out yet.
Right now, running a 64-bit game is operational on 32-bit OS. That is not full 64-bit technology and you can agree with me on that one, new CPU's are still to come and with them, new OS's that fully support 64-bit interface. Then you will see significant differences.
Yes, a 64-bit interface is much faster. UT04 is not using 64-bit as you may think he is, there has not been a game that used 64-bit yet. (Expect Shadow Ops & Stalker)
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Originally posted by GrimReaper@Oct 2 2004, 12:26 AM
We just need to wait and see. A completely 64-bit interface game has not been out yet.
Right now, running a 64-bit game is operational on 32-bit OS. That is not full 64-bit technology and you can agree with me on that one, new CPU's are still to come and with them, new OS's that fully support 64-bit interface. Then you will see significant differences.
Yes, a 64-bit interface is much faster. UT04 is not using 64-bit as you may think he is, there has not been a game that used 64-bit yet. (Expect Shadow Ops & Stalker)
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64bit interface? ur acting like its something you visually expirance.
Its nothing of the sort, its allows your CPU to process 2x the information in the same run cylce, and its too mix and match and sloppy to work well right now.
the word interface makes it seem like its a platform or something visual, it is not, its just an expansion on the CPU, sorta like a bigger cache.
Ut2004 is the FIRST game to have 64bit. that there was using the 32 bit app.
its not a big deal, its not something thatll make a massive change, with nearly no change in visual quality or sound quality.
the word interface is also misleading. its not platform, or anything u can see visaully, its an extension on the CPU.
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