Pc Evolution great but still not fair

Please, don't take it as an insult

Before we begin to discuss about pc engine I just ask you all to be polite
to answear my questions. Think over a bit.

I'm looking foward to seeing games like Ps3 games running on my machine, but I'm really concerned about this situation, when Ps3 is out what will happen to pc, how long will pc survive with the Ps3 arrival? (I mean "When they decide to port ps3 games onto pc, will they reduce graphics quality?
From the Emulators I found out something I'd never really expected to see, I was happy as I knew that pc can handle graphics like Resident Evil 4 (GC), Final Fantasy X (PS2) or whichever is it. And I wonder when/if there'll be games like that for pc (Many games like Prey, X3 Reunion are similar to Final Fantasy VII (Ps3). I'm just posting out this subject to show it to the public (so they can straight it up), I really want to know if pc will own ps3 games at all. I just think that pc is growing up fast and it's about to take out any consoles of the century. Pc is growing up fast along the consoles uprising.

See these screenshots below

Prey on the Pc

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/...0_screen002.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/...0_screen001.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/...1_screen002.jpg

X3 Reunion on the PC
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/...3_screen001.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/...3_screen005.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/...3_screen004.jpg

Heroes of the Pacific on the PC
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/...0_screen007.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/...p_screen007.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/...0_screen003.jpg

I-8 on the PlayStation 3
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/...6_screen002.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/...6_screen003.jpg

Final Fantasy VII on the PlayStation 3
http://www.ngemu.com/forums/attachment.php...tid=93963&stc=1
http://www.ngemu.com/forums/attachment.php...tid=93964&stc=1
http://www.ngemu.com/forums/attachment.php...tid=93965&stc=1


So here's my question!
Is pc capable to handle ps3 graphics at all? (Graphics are even better when you crank up resolutions)
Just don't tell me that ps3 has a powerfull videocard, twice better than Geforce Fx 6800, I already know that.

I'm still waiting to see non-CGI screens from PS3 "games".
When this happens, we can compare.

i agree

Originally posted by branz_mf@Jun 15 2005, 03:13 AM
I'm looking foward to seeing games like Ps3 games running on my machine, but I'm really concerned about this situation, when Ps3 is out what will happen to pc, how long will pc survive with the Ps3 arrival?

LOL, Most consoles that came out outbeats or was on pare with the top end PC and was
so for about a half till it gets throwen back to "just a consol". Why would you compare a
Console, which is a closed architecture and will stay like it is till it dies with a PC which is
constantly advancing in technology? Games looks and runs great on a consol is because
it is cut down to that specific specs that the console offer while on PC you have to make
it compatible to multible hardware possibilities. Still, in the end the PC will always hold t
he upper hand since it's more flexible and you can tune it to a certain performance area.
I didn't read the other part of your post because after I reached the end of the line of the
"Quote" I didn't think there is anything worth to keep reading.

Some things never change. Every time a new console is announced, the fan boys of the console will crawl out of the woodwork, and proclaim that the PC is going to die the moment the new console hits the market. It's a tradition that started with the PSX, and it's still running strong today. Why? Because manufacturers saturate the internet with rendered images and movies driving the fan boys into a frenzy (anyone remember the CGI clip from Killzone 2?), and because people have a tendency to forget that the PC is NOT a static piece of hardware. Any advantage that a console has over the PC is temporary at best, assuming it still has it once it's actually launched. Will the PC be on par with the PS3 in terms of graphics? Maybe not at first, but eventually it will not only be on par but surpass it by miles. Just look at the PS2 and Xbox. Both were heralded as PC killers. Both are inferior to the PC. The same fate awaits the PS3 and Xbox360.

Will the PC be on par with the PS3 in terms of graphics? Maybe not at first, but eventually it will not only be on par but surpass it by miles. Just look at the PS2 and Xbox. Both were heralded as PC killers. Both are inferior to the PC. The same fate awaits the PS3 and Xbox360. .

I agree, but for ps3 and xbox360, I think pc is inferior at the moment.
I hope you're dam right.

you're going about it all wrong. the problem will not be that the PC hardware is more advanced, more flexible or superior/inferior to the consoles but the fact that most developers will (and already have) avoiding releasing their software on the PC. More and more games are developed for the console and if they're a big seller they *may* then port the game to the PC 6months to a year later.

As time goes on it will become less important for developers to even support the PC, it costs them a lot more time to troubleshoot 4000 pc configurations than support 2-3 different consoles.

You can have the fastest PC in the world but it really doesn't matter if there is no gaming software to utilize that speed.

Yea certainly, as living room consoles become more popular and mainstream, more developers will choose to write for consoles first and port to PC second. But there will always still be that niche PC market tho for people who dont want mass produced/popularised/living room games.

As far as gfx hardware is concerned, dont they say the RSX for the PS3 is only a bit more powerful than 2 6800Us in SLI or as good as the upcoming R520? And multicore CPUs for PC are already here. By the time PS3 comes out, it'll pretty much be as good as the top end PC. (theoretically!) Only thing is a top end gfx card and CPU will be a bit more expensive. Just depends what style you like your games...we'll have to wait and see what the games will be like tho!

After that its downhill for consoles as PCs continue to get more powerful, whereas PS3 is stuck where it is for the next 5 years or so... B)

Yea certainly, as living room consoles become more popular and mainstream, more developers will choose to write for consoles first and port to PC second. But there will always still be that niche PC market tho for people who dont want mass produced/popularised/living room games.

Agreed, but how many games do you think will be developed for this niche market? How many good quality games? Why would a developer want to spend the millions of dollars to develop a game for a dying market (PC) that is prone to piracy and potentially end up losing money when they could write the same game or something similar for a console and probably outsell the PC version 10:1, even if the title sucks?

I have no doubt that PC gaming will always be around but in the end it will probably become more of a 'novelty' and attract a lot less good titles.

As far as gfx hardware is concerned, dont they say the RSX for the PS3 is only a bit more powerful than 2 6800Us in SLI or as good as the upcoming R520? And multicore CPUs for PC are already here. By the time PS3 comes out, it'll pretty much be as good as the top end PC. (theoretically!) Only thing is a top end gfx card and CPU will be a bit more expensive. Just depends what style you like your games...we'll have to wait and see what the games will be like tho!

After that its downhill for consoles as PCs continue to get more powerful, whereas PS3 is stuck where it is for the next 5 years or so... B)

Again, you assume that someone is going to make games for the PC, it's true that by the time the PS3 is released PCs will destroy the computing power of the PS3, not to mention be a lot more flexible, upgradable, etc. But the fact is that that is irrelevant when it comes to developing games. Its a business like any other and it just simply wouldn't make sense to develop a game for the PC when if developed on the console (which is 10x easier to develop games for) will outsell just it's PC version significantly.

Well, pr0cs, it didn't make sense for the last 20 years and still, they did it? Doubt it very much that they'll change just because of the PS3 (lol) or XBox 360.