console yourself pc gamers

the only thing i see wrong with that sentence is the terrible spelling oh wait .... the corrs im scared

Originally posted by Choupolo@Feb 13 2006, 02:20 AM
You can get a converter to use your PS2 pad on PC, not sure how well it works though. I've been using an old MS sidewinder pad till now. I've been trying to get my wired usb 360 pad to work on my PC, and it is working through some dodgy driver site, but the pad isnt that well supported. Potentially if devs are willing to support it in future games, I'd love to be able to use this pad for some of the arcade game ports from console.

But the PC is all about specialist controls like logitech's steering wheels or those uber flight sticks. That's why I tend to leave my arcade games for my console and my sims and FPSs for my PC. As for MP, you only have to meet both communities to tell the difference, those PC sim guys are the nicest people on the planet! :P XBox Live is still fun tho, when you dont have a stroppy american kid calling everyone a 'gay idiot fag' every second. Yup thats what happened today. XBox Live bringing the world together.

But I heard recently that Peter Moore wants MS Vista to make PC gaming an established brand ie more like consoles. Doesn't he get that it already is its own brand?? Dont ruin Sega, 360 and PC as well! I dislike that guy.

It's funny you should mention that because I just finished a review of liksang's Super Joy Dual Plus adapter, which converts up to two controllers. I had a few issues with the force feedback (works in drivers but not always in games), and some other things, but in general it works GREAT. Played through the entire nfs: mw using it, and when you play a game like that at 1600x1200 with such a great controller you're really getting the best of both worlds. Sure you're playing it on your PC monitor, but they're getting pretty big and juicy too these days...

conclusion console always comes in second to pc

I have a solution... I bought myself an s-video/audio to scart lead which sends video and audio to my TV :-) combine this with a logitech wireless rumblepad 2 and you got yourself a great console which can display graphics as advanced as an xbox360 given the right spec pc. I just did a head to head on warrior within on gamecube/ps2 and my new pc console type seytup thingy on my tv and it plays and looks better than the console version.

with games like race driver 3 and tomb raider legend around the corner things are looking good! by the way king kong plays great on a joypad too :-)

Yeah I guess if you like to play console ports most of the time and maybe 1-2 PC only titles then yep PC is great. I guess if you don't mind to spend time fiddling with drivers, making sure your machine is always up to date, patched, virus scanned and clean, spyware clean, not running any extra processes that slow the game down then PCs are the way to go. And with those 1-2 PC only titles it's also great to have the latest and greatest videocard to find the developers aren't using 80% of it because they wrote the game for the dummy who lives down your street who still has a 1500Mhz computer with a Geforce2MX and hasn't updates his drivers in 2 years.

You guys need to take off the blinders I think.

Oh behave Procs. If you had Microsoft Windows Media Centre Edition, Firefox, GeForce7x00, 3GHz class CPU, 1GB RAM, SoundBlaster Audigy with SPDIF out, Nero 7.0, wireless keyboard and mouse, wireless joypads, a nice TV and turned on your firewall... you would not have any problems. This is hassle free gaming AND i might add, is essentially updating all on its own without user interference. This is enthusiast gaming... DO NOT even think that everyone is a PC noob like yourself.

The last good game written for GeForce2 hardware in mind as a recommended spec was based on the Unreal Tournament engine over 5 years ago! Go get your facts right... dumbass! Developers only provide fallback support for this rendering path because they can due toithe nature of the DirectX API. Coincidentally, the DirectX API is behind the original XBox and XBox360... and is why XBox360 offers some fallback support for XBox titles. Windows has a lot to do with it aswell... with the Xbox OS running on heavily customised Windows Kernel... Go figure! :P

i figure that you know way too much

Hold on a min... it really is as simple as using a console! i simply press a joypad button which takes it out of standby then double click the game i wanna play then switch off my monitor and hey presto my pc game can be played on my tv whilst i lay on my sofa drinking tea and feeling happy i never paid for pc technology twice - simple! as for drivers and virus worries etc - well its never really an issue, probably overhyped is that sort of thing.

the only reason i did this in the first place was because i wanted an xbox360 but i knew i'd want an HD TV and they are so expensive! so i found a cheaper way to play 'next gen' using what i had already so bugger off xbox360 i have a pc,tv out cable and a joypad :-)

AND i still have mouse/keyboard for shooters and strategy games, what could be better? well there is one drawback :-( the s-video out, although better than composite, it's not quite upto rbg scart or component cables but then nothing is 100% perfect is it.

1 other positive thing i have found since i turned my pc into a console(of sorts lol)is i have rediscovered some older games i never got round to playing like tomb raider 2,3 and last revelation, broken sword 3 and gta vice city all in higher res than their older console counterparts :-) i know retro gaming is often just not as much fun as u imagined it but due to the pc resoltion etc some of the older games look good enough.

Oh behave Procs. If you had Microsoft Windows Media Centre Edition, Firefox, GeForce7x00, 3GHz class CPU, 1GB RAM, SoundBlaster Audigy with SPDIF out, Nero 7.0, wireless keyboard and mouse, wireless joypads, a nice TV and turned on your firewall... you would not have any problems. This is hassle free gaming AND i might add, is essentially updating all on its own without user interference. This is enthusiast gaming... DO NOT even think that everyone is a PC noob like yourself.

I have a AMD 3500 S939 system running two 6800GTs in SLI, I'm on WinMCE 2005 so I can use the extender options on my 360.. I sell about 70 computer systems a year to a wide variety of individuals. I can honestly say that 1/2 of the upgrades I do are for "PC noobs" as you mention because they are extremely pissed off that the game they bought doesn't work for their computer. A large percentage of the time the person's PC may have run the game but their software is so out of date that the game runs like crap. Other times the people buy software that requires a fairly high end system and their computer is borderline obsolete (the example I had about the Geforce MX2 card was from a fellow who wanted to run FEAR on it and could not).

The last good game written for GeForce2 hardware in mind as a recommended spec was based on the Unreal Tournament engine over 5 years ago! Go get your facts right... dumbass! Developers only provide fallback support for this rendering path because they can due toithe nature of the DirectX API. Coincidentally, the DirectX API is behind the original XBox and XBox360... and is why XBox360 offers some fallback support for XBox titles. Windows has a lot to do with it aswell... with the Xbox OS running on heavily customised Windows Kernel... Go figure! :P

for a GM you sure have a reading comprehension problem. My comment was directly from a real life situation I encountered. Most people don't give a damn about what hardware was availiable when UT or any other games were out. They don't care about their drivers, or keeping them up to date. PC gaming is very sick and piracy along with the complexity of building a reliable system that isn't obsolete in 2 years is the reason. Don't believe me? keep your head buried in the sand it doesn't affect me. Just read the most recent EGM articles where Carmack and the other iD guys are interviewed. They say that a LARGE portion of their sales were lost due to piracy and that their focus these days has been on developing console software. These are the guys that helped start the 3D gaming evolution, they've basically hinted at the demise of the PC gaming scene as we know it.