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Old 01-14-2007, 01:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah I appreciate that other people dont have the budget available, so maybe there is a gap in my narrow-mind for an AMD system, but I still say don't buy a new GFX card now. Its like going out and buying a PS2 or XBox... its out of date, or soon will be.
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Well, buying the 1950 pro would be like buying the 360, a fair and decent system that can keep you happy but without any real nextgen features. The 8800 would be the PS3
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Old 01-14-2007, 04:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Actually the PS3 has an off the shelf Nvidia solution in it, whereas the 360 has a more powerful unified architecture AMD/ATI GPU. The PS3 really only has a 7800 in it.
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Old 01-14-2007, 05:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You shouldn't have taken that literally. The overall package of the PS3 could be compared to the 8800, it specific compound can't. The 1950 is ofcourse nowhere near the 360 but as an package it's performancewise the best comparison. Both next gen consoles have a unified shader structure (the most important part of dx10 to those readers who don't know what it is, google the rest for yourself).
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:12 PM   #15 (permalink)
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PS3 does not have unified architecture. Sony brought technology already exisiting at Nvidia, based on R&D into the G80 architecture. PS3 is just 24 (or whatever 7800GTX has) pixel pipelines and seperate vertex units.
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Well if you have an AGP system then the 7800GS is the way to go. I have
one in my old gaming PC. It kick's ass. I've also noted some posts about
the core 2 duo vs. the AM2. There is no contest here. Core2 Duo is the only
smart choice. And as for DX10. I don't see it happening anytime really soon.
In 6 month's we'll see a few games, but I don't think it's going to be happening
anytime real soon. I think it will be a lot longer wait then the switch from DX8 to 9.
And even though I can afford a DX10 card I'm not gonna buy the 8800 series from
Nvidia. I'll wait til the next generation comes out. It will be improved by then
and we'll have some games to play :-)
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yep me too. Wait for DX10.b and the 2nd generation G80 boards!
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:44 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally posted by GM™@Jan 14 2007, 03:37 PM
Yep me too. Wait for DX10.b and the 2nd generation G80 boards!
And if you guy's want the best advise. Please list your Total System Spec.'s
from CPU to Power Supply. There is a lot of good help available here.
But without all the info were all just really guesstimating :-)
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:53 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Well, I completely disagree. It's nice to see some people with a passion for the latest hardware, but we must accept the fact that some people are on a lower budget. A difference of 80-90 euro's between the basic x2/core2duo is huge and means people with a budget will have to compromize on the quality of the rest of their setup, for example their hd, psu mem, mobo (even more impotant then CPU) or whatever.

Just suggesting the biggest processor is a way too narrowminded vision in the pcworld. The overall performance of a pc is based on the sum of it's contents and not on just a core2duo.

Any link supporting your claim GM? Not that it suddendly makes the 360 faster as it still is the slower of the 2 but I'm intriged.
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Originally posted by Gazz@Jan 14 2007, 03:53 PM
Well, I completely disagree. It's nice to see some people with a passion for the latest hardware, but we must accept the fact that some people are on a lower budget. A difference of 80-90 euro's between the basic x2/core2duo is huge and means people with a budget will have to compromize on the quality of the rest of their setup, for example their hd, psu mem, mobo (even more impotant then CPU) or whatever.

Just suggesting the biggest processor is a way too narrowminded vision in the pcworld. The overall performance of a pc is based on the sum of it's contents and not on just a core2duo.

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Well it's been hard to argue with you on a lot of post lately. This one
is easy. The C2D E6300 is cheap. And it dominates the AMD in almost
every test available. Recommending a AMD is only good for fanboys
and the truely poor. If your poor then you just need to save your
cash a little longer. The prices drop every day. And with the addition
of a decent aftermarket heatsink the E6300 will perfom almost as good
as it's $500 brother. Nothing you can do will make the AMD equal to
the C2D. My last system had an 4800X2 and the E6300 blows it out
of the water. I paid $800 for the X2 (at the time, what is it now). You
can get the E6300 for under $200 US.
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