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Old 03-13-2008, 08:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Still, it costs like twice what the 3870x2 costs. Hope nvidia sorts out the bugs by launch though
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I will never deny the absolute power of Nvidia's top cards, but you have to be a real blind bat with malfuntioning sonar to deny the fact that their price/performance is pretty poor.

Let's see how well they put up against the AMD 4*** series. Primary tests (3) I have seen so far have been dissapointing.

Nvidia seems to be cashing in on the small crowd off people who buy highend cards regardless of looking at any price/quality performance keeping prices artificially high, they also help to deplete the pc user base even more. The only way that pc gaming will increase in popularity is by becoming accessible to the main crowd and they seem to be doing the exact opposite with their absurd prices.
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Well, ATI cards have never been good to me for starters. Then there are the issues with the drivers. And last, I have no clue what is what with the ATI cards! At least I can figure out some of the nVidia shit.
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I will never deny the absolute power of Nvidia's top cards, but you have to be a real blind bat with malfuntioning sonar to deny the fact that their price/performance is pretty poor.

Let's see how well they put up against the AMD 4*** series. Primary tests (3) I have seen so far have been dissapointing.

Nvidia seems to be cashing in on the small crowd off people who buy highend cards regardless of looking at any price/quality performance keeping prices artificially high, they also help to deplete the pc user base even more. The only way that pc gaming will increase in popularity is by becoming accessible to the main crowd and they seem to be doing the exact opposite with their absurd prices.
I agree with you. That is why my next video card will be an ATI model, it is time for Nvidia to teach them that lesson. Why are they not able to see that in the long run, their policy will enable AMD to catch up with them remarkably? Or are they so "arrogant" to ignore that?

@ Interman: it does not seem fair to me, to compare a pre-4000 series model with a high rank GeForce 9 card.
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well, ATI cards have never been good to me for starters. Then there are the issues with the drivers. And last, I have no clue what is what with the ATI cards! At least I can figure out some of the nVidia shit.
That is why AMD decided to stop with using words like "pro" in the name-giving.
While Nvidia and the companies that use their chipsets, are continueing the use of GT, GTS, GTX, M G (laptop cards), etc. in the names of their products. So who is confusing us?
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@ Interman: it does not seem fair to me, to compare a pre-4000 series model with a high rank GeForce 9 card.
The thing is though, the gx2 is basically just two 8800gts's glued together. The 9600 is their first "true" 9000 series card.

What I'm curious about is how it compares to using two 8800gts's, two gt's, two gtx's, etc. I think the NDA expires on the 18th, so we'll know soon enough
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No-one seems to care about NDA's these days and ComputerBase.de has ran some numbers on the not so mighty 9800GX2. From the numbers they've compiled, it looks like the 9800GX2 will be the worst value card from Nvidia in the history of the company.

It's getting its backside handed to itself by a pair of 8800GT cards in SLI in every test apart from Crysis and it never beats the pair of 8800GTX cards. Even a single 8800 Ultra beats it in World in Conflict. It looks like Nvidia has a lot of driver tuning to do before this mighty, over priced, door stop of a card will perform anywhere near to expectations people have on it.

Nvidia seems to have something of a PR nightmare on its hand here and we wonder how they'll managed to turn this one around. Some new drivers might convince people otherwise, but this takes time, although it is entierly possible that Nvidia is holding on to these until the launch day.
Check the comparison here ComputerBase - Benchmarks und Bilder zur GeForce 9800 GX2
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Nvidia may get involved in a huge market share decrease, If they don't solve their issues before the launch of AMD's Radeon HD 4000 series. If lastmentioned company doesn't have issues too, that is.
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I’m completely disappointed in 9000 series.. Where’s the tera-flop scale performance they yapped about last year?
On the other hand I’m very pleased.. I was right, my 8800GTX SLI setup had nothing to fear and continues to dominate at least until they make quad GX2 capable drivers.
I just hope both ati and nvidia are working on completely new architectures coz this die shrinking and slapping cards together thing is just hopeless waist of everyone’s time and money.
I mean SLI is 30% waist as it is 3 way sli more than 50% and slap on cards are just garbage, there's nowhere else to go but to a dead end with this trash.
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I wonder if even 1000, or even 500 gamers (not benchers) will bother running a system with four cards.
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