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Old 11-22-2004, 12:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Ehm, using Rivatuner you can in many cases unlock the normally locked pixelpipelines and vertex shaders, combine that with an Arctic Silencer and you can crank the clockspeed of the card to that of a GT or even an Ultra.
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Ehm, using Rivatuner you can in many cases unlock the normally locked pixelpipelines and vertex shaders, combine that with an Arctic Silencer and you can crank the clockspeed of the card to that of a GT or even an Ultra.
Yes, however the handle of the card would be pretty much the same, maybe some increase in the fps but tweaking pipelines is not yet been proven as working, update me if you got any info on that matter.
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There is off course a chance that you can't unlock all or even any of the pipelines, but you have a pretty big chance of unlocking 4 extra pipelines, performance will go up as expected, there's no catch, if you can unlock 8 extra pipes, and crank up the clocks to match those of the 6800 Ultra, you actually have a 6800 Ultra.
Even if you can't unlock any pipes, they're great overclockers anyway, so you get great bang for buck...

And you probably won't understand a word on this forum, but the numbers speak for themselves.
The title of the first poll is: How many pipes were you able to unlock?

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Interesting, it gave me an idea to try and soft mode my 4200 although tweaking pipelines and such I doubt I can do with this card :bucky!:
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Nope, you won't be able to do that, because the only difference between the Ti 4200 and the 4600 are the clockspeeds, they have the exact same number of pipelines and memory bandwith. Off course some manufacturers will have used lower quality RAM on some cards, and some cards just have lower yield processors, processors not suited for 4600 speeds, sold as 4200's, so you may not be able to clock it to 4600 speeds. So all you can do is stick some better cooling on it, overclock it and maybe voltmod it for even higher clockspeeds.
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Nope, you won't be able to do that, because the only difference between the Ti 4200 and the 4600 are the clockspeeds, they have the exact same number of pipelines and memory bandwith. Off course some manufacturers will have used lower quality RAM on some cards, and some cards just have lower yield processors, processors not suited for 4600 speeds, sold as 4200's, so you may not be able to clock it to 4600 speeds. So all you can do is stick some better cooling on it, overclock it and maybe voltmod it for even higher clockspeeds.
Not entirely true, the Memory Bandwidth on the 4600 card is by 2.18 GB/s bigger and it has slightly higher fill rate (around 400 MTexels/s more)

The rest is pretty much the same, NV25 Architecture and those pipes, like you said.

The memory was an issue among the 128 mb cards, the once made by Samsung are the bad once

I have a 64 mb card, MSI version which I'm very proud of (keeps me playing every thing I want )

My card is OC by Factory to 250/500 (core/memory) and runs with no problems at all since a very good company made the memory (forgot the name :\ starts with "K" i think)

Regarding Riva tuner, I have just found some compatibility mode, which I can enable to suit my motherboard the best way.
Moreover, I think i got an increase on fps and more stable numbers. *example > not jumping from 30 to 60 to 40 to 80...but stable once like 60 to 61 to 80 to 59.

I will make some benchmarks
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That's nice. Those Ti cards really were great, it's a shame my old Gainward Ti4200 died, I think overclocked it too much...
Here's how they calculate the maximum bandwith, as you can see, it is dependant on the memory speed.
And as you can see here, the fill rate is dependant on the core speed, so it's normal that the 4600 has higher bandwith and fillrate, it's clocked higher.
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