radeon x800 xt pe or geforce 6800 ultra?

In order for him to have 2 GFX (Nvidia 6800 ultra) connected using SLI tech he must have a motherboard that supports it, which he doesn't ... that means buying a new comp

However, you can get the 6800 Ultra Extreme version, which is slightly faster than the ultra.

Regarding Radeon, the X850 "##" (something) should be also available soon, correct me if i am wrong.

i would go for the 6800 Ultra, if you want you can buy a second later for SLi , i dunno if you have a AMD 64 but....

and besides, the Geforce cards are much more reliable

and about the Sli story, there's an article on most of the tech-sites about Sli working on Non-sli MOBO's

Originally posted by noobman@Dec 15 2004, 10:52 PM
i would go for the 6800 Ultra, if you want you can buy a second later for SLi , i dunno if you have a AMD 64 but....

and besides, the Geforce cards are much more reliable

and about the Sli story, there's an article on most of the tech-sites about Sli working on Non-sli MOBO's

the guy has AGP, thats 1 slot, that does NOT work with pci-e cards
i order to use SLi you need the fallowing:

1-a mobo w/ 2 pci-e slots

2-that mobo has to support SLi

3-2 vid cards that are pci-e and support the SLi funtion

the 6800 ultra comes in 3 flavors:

agp (this is the only one he can use!)

pci-e

pci-e w/ SLi support

he can only use agp, so forget about buying a card later for your current rig. so go buy buy a good agp card. or wait it out and buy a new rig with a SLi graphics system :Oo:

Originally posted by noobman@Dec 16 2004, 01:52 AM
Sli working on Non-sli MOBO's

SLI is a function and a port, you need to have that function (on the cards & on the boards) in order for it to work, and you need two PCI-E slots on the motherboard as well.

Huh!!!! Im not interested in SLI cos ive got an agp motherboard, so back to the topic. Which do you all think I should get x800 xt pe (agp) or 6800 ultra (agp). Please explain why and back your decision with reasons for picking that graphics card.
Thanks.

I would go with a 6800U, and my reason is Shader Model 3.0

The two opposing cards are pretty much the same but, SM3.0 is nice to have and looks ******* great :thumbup:

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjA5

ATI gpu run directx game better and runs higher frames better under full AA and AF
but has weaker overall frame rate with no AA or Af then nVIDIA.

nVIDIA gpu run opengl games better and run lower frames under full AA and AF
but has stronger overall frame rate with no AA or Af then nVIDIA.

in addition check what card brand supports what game
example: a game supported by ATi will in most
cases run better on an ATi chip set then nVIDIA ect. ect. ect.

if you need all the pixel shading madness you can handle go for
a 6800 since its the onlly card to currently support SM3.0.

anyone correct me if i am wrong

Originally posted by TheTeaPot@Dec 16 2004, 04:21 AM
ATI gpu run directx game better and runs higher frames better under full AA and AF
but has weaker overall frame rate with no AA or Af then nVIDIA.

This is not entirely true, it depends on the whole PC as well as a good video card.

nVIDIA gpu run opengl games better and run lower frames under full AA and AF
but has stronger overall frame rate with no AA or Af then nVIDIA.

:bucky!: You mean.. "than ATI" don't you ?

in addition check what card brand supports what game
example: a game supported by ATi will in most
cases run better on an ATi chip set then nVIDIA ect. ect. ect.

This is rubbish, apart from OpenGL and Direct X games, which in that case OpenGL games would run better on NVIDIA. And Direct x games would run mostly equal strongly depending on the entire PC (motherboard/ram/CPU/ etc.. )


The only REAL difference that may come as a concern to you is the HEAT, see the 6800 has 222 Million Transistors comparing to ATI's 160 Million, meaning that the 6800 will produce greater heat than the ATI series card resulting in a very hot piece of machine unless you have some good cooling moreover if you like to over clock it.

For conclusion, if you have good cooling an a lot of space in your case (since the 6800 is ..BIG) get a 6800 U.
If you don't have as much space nor massive cooling, simply go for the X800 XT PE.

They are both great cards.

too bad that there are only 2 main compagny's for videocards cause choice is very limited

didn't you say you had a small power supply because without a good power supply the 6800 won't work