Radeon vs Nvidia

Im thinking of getting a new card, currently I have a 9700 pro but am looking at the 6600 GT (Which I believe clocks up pretty nice too). Can't afford a 6800 or XT800 series so I am looking for good performance on a budget (£180 or $200 for our American friends).

Which is better all round

9800 XT or 6600 GT, benchmarks seem to suggest Nvidia as it has better shader performance...

Be interested if anyone has one or had both

think..
nvidia support shader modell 3..but 6600 is to weak to do this in highgraphiks games.
And in AA and AF nvidia had better quality (only read it,never owned a radeon)

so iam for nvidia
otherwise it is your PC :thumbup:

on low- med res nvidea outbeats ati. 1280x1024 and up with aa and af ati keeps the crown.
technicly nvidea is ahead with shader3.0 and dual wewantfourslotssoyoucan'tuseanythingelse support, while ati got only 2.x. in a couple of months ati introduces their new cards with shader 3 and some extra juice.
180 pounds = 200$? i would like to trade some $ in your bank

How many pipelines does the 9800 XT have? I know the 9700 Pro has 8 and think the 6600 GT has 8. I guess 12 would be the sweet spot but havent seen any cheap cards around that offer 12 as standard. Even if I had the cash I would never give Radeon or Nvidia £400 for a card thats superseeded every 6 mnths, there aren't enough AAA releases on PC per year to justify the cost, oh unless your obsessed with your 3D Mark Score :bucky!:

Originally posted by GNDNLS@Feb 25 2005, 11:42 AM
think..
nvidia support shader modell 3..but 6600 is to weak to do this in highgraphiks games.
And in AA and AF nvidia had better quality (only read it,never owned a radeon)

so iam for nvidia
otherwise it is your PC :thumbup:

yeah sounds like another marketing ploy to me, ok so it may be great, but then again it could be like MMX and 3DNow. I guess it will take time for Shader 3.0 to become mainstream, if it does, and no doubt newer and faster cards will be thrown into the money pit by then

Get a nice asus geforce board and a nice nvidia 6800 that will beat anything radeon have.

Originally posted by {White_Knight}@Feb 25 2005, 03:20 PM
How many pipelines does the 9800 XT have? I know the 9700 Pro has 8 and think the 6600 GT has 8. I guess 12 would be the sweet spot but havent seen any cheap cards around that offer 12 as standard. Even if I had the cash I would never give Radeon or Nvidia £400 for a card thats superseeded every 6 mnths, there aren't enough AAA releases on PC per year to justify the cost, oh unless your obsessed with your 3D Mark Score :bucky!:

Radeon 9800XT has eight pipelines.

The better things are the Memory Bandwidth and the extra vertex pipeline. (Four in total compare to three of NVIDIA's)
Moreover the use of 256-bit Memory Bus Width (compared to NVIDIA's 128-bit)

The thing that's worse is the memory type, simple DDR, when NVIDIA uses GDDR3 thus having higher clock rates for memory. However, ATI uses 256-bit, therefore the Bandwidth doubled, giving a much higher result.

If you can over clock it over than the original fill rate of NVIDIA's 6600GT, your card will be better ;)

...However I recommend having only up to 128 MB for that DDR type :bucky!: ... with NVIDIA's you can grab the 256MB version and over clock it, getting better results than ATI's 9800XT DDR memory type.

Originally posted by Psycho Pigeon+Feb 25 2005, 05:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Psycho Pigeon @ Feb 25 2005, 05:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Get a nice asus geforce board and a nice nvidia 6800 that will beat anything radeon have. [/b]

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Originally posted by GrimReaper+Feb 25 2005, 02:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GrimReaper @ Feb 25 2005, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--{White_Knight}@Feb 25 2005, 03:20 PM
How many pipelines does the 9800 XT have? I know the 9700 Pro has 8 and think the 6600 GT has 8. I guess 12 would be the sweet spot but havent seen any cheap cards around that offer 12 as standard. Even if I had the cash I would never give Radeon or Nvidia £400 for a card thats superseeded every 6 mnths, there aren't enough AAA releases on PC per year to justify the cost, oh unless your obsessed with your 3D Mark Score* :bucky!:

Radeon 9800XT has eight pipelines.

The better things are the Memory Bandwidth and the extra vertex pipeline. (Four in total compare to three of NVIDIA's)
Moreover the use of 256-bit Memory Bus Width (compared to NVIDIA's 128-bit)

The thing that's worse is the memory type, simple DDR, when NVIDIA uses GDDR3 thus having higher clock rates for memory. However, ATI uses 256-bit, therefore the Bandwidth doubled, giving a much higher result.

If you can over clock it over than the original fill rate of NVIDIA's 6600GT, your card will be better ;)

...However I recommend having only up to 128 MB for that DDR type :bucky!: ... with NVIDIA's you can grab the 256MB version and over clock it, getting better results than ATI's 9800XT DDR memory type. [/b][/quote]
Thanks for the advice Grim, I haven't seen any 6600GT variants with 256MB memory on-board? If the X800 Pro boards dropped £100 i would be sorted but thats not going to happen just yet

I have a 9800XT and it rocks teh bin one1111!! I love it. I can run HL2 with everything to the max and with full AA and AF and I run Doom3 with max and 4X AA and AF