This Election

mikeeegeee · 11-03-2004, 08:16 AM

I hate politics. Completely. I never take part in conversations about them, and this will be the one time I do for 4 years.

I just got back from wherever, its 9 o clock, bush is winning electoral votes and popular vote, It's not over yet, but I for one think this sucks. Before I start this rant, I want to tell you: I don't like George Bush. I don't like John Kerry. I don't have a problem with Ralph Nader, but that's not the issue here :P . My problem with George Bush is that I think he sucks at being a president. All foreigners hate us, you have to look non-American when going to places overseas. Remember when people loved us? I do. It's because of Bush that they don't anymore. They way he handled the situations he did. I think he is 100 percent guarenteed to suck if reelected. Kerry sucks too. I think most people will agree that both candidates aren't good at all. But the thing about Kerry is, he's new, and he probably has only a 95 percent chance of total suckage. Now, what I don't get is why people would vote for someone with a guarenteed suckage rate (as you can see from his past history) instead of voting for someone who has at least some small chance of doing some good.

I've been told that abortion is a big issue. Bush wants to outlaw it. Kerry supports choice. Everyone i know is like: "Oh Kerry is terrible he supports abortion." If bush outlaws abortion, women will kill the baby themselves. No lie. It happened back when it was outlawed. It's sick and should be done by professional. And what if your 13 years old and are raped and going to have a kid (and could possibly be a risk to your health,) hell yes you are getting an abortion.

And this war. Kerry wants to get us out of there. GOOD. You can't win this war. You would have to kill every last f*cking terrorist to win it, which is impossible. We are fighting a war of attrition over there, a war in which each side gradually wears the other side down slowly. With people dying every day and no progress being made, what the hell are we doing. I'm not going to frickin get drafted.

I'm not for either candidate here, I'm just anti-bush. We'd be better off with Nader.

No matter who wins, no matter what happens (close, tie, controversy or whatever), the prophecy made by this guy is looking more and more likely. Summary: He claims to be from 2036. He time traveled back to 1998 or something, foretold such things as Y2k, September 11th, and a Civil War in the US beginning in 2005 over controversy in the election. Late 2004 he said. That lasts untill 2015, at which point, in our weakened state, Russia will nuke us and start WWIII, nuclear war. Three billion die, capital is moved to Omaha, NE.

Silent Archer · 11-03-2004, 08:27 AM

Wow.. i heard basically that same Statement in class today. Anyways I myself am very "Anti-Bush" and it is very unfortunate that he is winning in Electoral votes right now. I do support "Choice" and aborsions would go on anyways even if it was outlawed. You cant stop stuff like that from happening.. wtf is Bush thinking. And this BS war that he started.. if he gets realected. Most likly the bumbling idiot will get us into a deeper hole with S H I T over over seas... and myself and my friends will be off fighting in his war, while his ass gets richer with all that Iraqi Oil

. Bush Is a Joke, Whoever supports him is a Ignorant Fool, I feel sorry for you. Althought i dont support Kerry with all that he has to say, He sure as hell would probobly do a better job than our current president. I would add more, but im about to go get a update on the election, peace.

Back,

Mikeeegeee i am so with you, if i get drafted... im gona be so pissed. And your also right about this war, to actually win this war the US could not do it alone without Starting the Draft. there are over 75 Countries that Harbor Terroists, We would also have to Include the UN, Bush would most likly be impeeched because of the bs war that he started and all of the "Dumb-ass" americans would start to wake up and actually get Smart.. about 70-80% (Not really Including people on this Forum, because you all seem pretty intelligent Exceptions for The HL2 Fanboy "System Error") of the American population is not really smart when it comes to politics.. and they vote for the wrong canidate for the wrong reasons, and arent really educatied on whats going on, or they vote for whoever everyone else is voting for. Our country is pretty sad....

Anyways... looks like the basterd is gona win again... which sucks on my behalf. The Economy is going to suffer greatly because of this... my god... WWIII here we come...

Bucky · 11-03-2004, 08:39 AM

Murders occur every day, so we should legalize murder?

Cow · 11-03-2004, 08:47 AM

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Should we legalize murder?

fine with me! gotta dust off the old sawed-off :hush: :eyebrow:

mikeeegeee · 11-03-2004, 08:48 AM

I know I'm missing your point but, who wants to legalize murder?

Bucky · 11-03-2004, 09:02 AM

Abortions will happen even if they are illegal, therefore, they should be legal.

Murders happen everyday, even though they are illegal, therefore, we should legalize murder.

It's the exact same logic.

Silent Archer · 11-03-2004, 09:04 AM

Well.. im gona say no Comment... Politics bring out the Worst in people... and i wish to remain friends with Everybody..

mikeeegeee · 11-03-2004, 09:18 AM

no one said you should be able to go and get one if you dont want a baby. There are definitely exceptions.

Sepht · 11-03-2004, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by Bucky@Nov 3 2004, 03:02 AM
Abortions will happen even if they are illegal, therefore, they should be legal.

Murders happen everyday, even though they are illegal, therefore, we should legalize murder.

It's the exact same logic.

Abortions are legal. Supreme Court ruled its a privacy right.

Anything in the first 3 months isn't even an animal, let alone a human, hell, its a sack of living cells in technicallty, its no more alive then the trees outside.

Just because your religon lets you give it a life and a soul doesn't mean it has a soul for everyone. Don't force your religon down other peoples throats.

This isn't a christian nation. It is in majority christian, and was founded by christians. HOWEVER, it was founded on the principles of religous freedom.

If you think that just because its a christian majority and things should change and allow christian religous principles as to what a human being is become law. go fu*k yourself (please note.. this is applying to anyone who thinks that.. i have nothing against bucky)
" Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" - Bill of Rights.
All of what is considering alive and human must be worked off techincal standards. If you think abortion is wrong. then don't have an abortion. There should be a choice. Its not being shoved down your throat.

EDIT: If you wanna live in a christian based nation. Get your f*cking ass out of the United States, The foundations of the US were to allow religous freedom,

Bucky · 11-03-2004, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by Sepht+Nov 3 2004, 07:11 AM-->
QUOTE (Sepht @ Nov 3 2004, 07:11 AM)

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11-03-2004, 08:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
mikeeegeee is on the 5th circle: Wrath & Sullenness Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,108 Hellbux: 15,792	I hate politics. Completely. I never take part in conversations about them, and this will be the one time I do for 4 years. I just got back from wherever, its 9 o clock, bush is winning electoral votes and popular vote, It's not over yet, but I for one think this sucks. Before I start this rant, I want to tell you: I don't like George Bush. I don't like John Kerry. I don't have a problem with Ralph Nader, but that's not the issue here :P . My problem with George Bush is that I think he sucks at being a president. All foreigners hate us, you have to look non-American when going to places overseas. Remember when people loved us? I do. It's because of Bush that they don't anymore. They way he handled the situations he did. I think he is 100 percent guarenteed to suck if reelected. Kerry sucks too. I think most people will agree that both candidates aren't good at all. But the thing about Kerry is, he's new, and he probably has only a 95 percent chance of total suckage. Now, what I don't get is why people would vote for someone with a guarenteed suckage rate (as you can see from his past history) instead of voting for someone who has at least some small chance of doing some good. I've been told that abortion is a big issue. Bush wants to outlaw it. Kerry supports choice. Everyone i know is like: "Oh Kerry is terrible he supports abortion." If bush outlaws abortion, women will kill the baby themselves. No lie. It happened back when it was outlawed. It's sick and should be done by professional. And what if your 13 years old and are raped and going to have a kid (and could possibly be a risk to your health,) hell yes you are getting an abortion. And this war. Kerry wants to get us out of there. GOOD. You can't win this war. You would have to kill every last f*cking terrorist to win it, which is impossible. We are fighting a war of attrition over there, a war in which each side gradually wears the other side down slowly. With people dying every day and no progress being made, what the hell are we doing. I'm not going to frickin get drafted. I'm not for either candidate here, I'm just anti-bush. We'd be better off with Nader. No matter who wins, no matter what happens (close, tie, controversy or whatever), the prophecy made by this guy is looking more and more likely. Summary: He claims to be from 2036. He time traveled back to 1998 or something, foretold such things as Y2k, September 11th, and a Civil War in the US beginning in 2005 over controversy in the election. Late 2004 he said. That lasts untill 2015, at which point, in our weakened state, Russia will nuke us and start WWIII, nuclear war. Three billion die, capital is moved to Omaha, NE. __________________ "Is that how they drive in Tiananmen Square bitch?!"

11-03-2004, 08:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
Silent Archer is on the 3rd circle: Gluttony Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 469 Hellbux: 7,159	Wow.. i heard basically that same Statement in class today. Anyways I myself am very "Anti-Bush" and it is very unfortunate that he is winning in Electoral votes right now. I do support "Choice" and aborsions would go on anyways even if it was outlawed. You cant stop stuff like that from happening.. wtf is Bush thinking. And this BS war that he started.. if he gets realected. Most likly the bumbling idiot will get us into a deeper hole with S H I T over over seas... and myself and my friends will be off fighting in his war, while his ass gets richer with all that Iraqi Oil . Bush Is a Joke, Whoever supports him is a Ignorant Fool, I feel sorry for you. Althought i dont support Kerry with all that he has to say, He sure as hell would probobly do a better job than our current president. I would add more, but im about to go get a update on the election, peace. Back, Mikeeegeee i am so with you, if i get drafted... im gona be so pissed. And your also right about this war, to actually win this war the US could not do it alone without Starting the Draft. there are over 75 Countries that Harbor Terroists, We would also have to Include the UN, Bush would most likly be impeeched because of the bs war that he started and all of the "Dumb-ass" americans would start to wake up and actually get Smart.. about 70-80% (Not really Including people on this Forum, because you all seem pretty intelligent Exceptions for The HL2 Fanboy "System Error") of the American population is not really smart when it comes to politics.. and they vote for the wrong canidate for the wrong reasons, and arent really educatied on whats going on, or they vote for whoever everyone else is voting for. Our country is pretty sad.... Anyways... looks like the basterd is gona win again... which sucks on my behalf. The Economy is going to suffer greatly because of this... my god... WWIII here we come... __________________ - MSI 865G Neo2 - P4 Prescott 3.2Ghz @ 3.46Ghz 800Mhz FSB 1mb L2 Cache - 1.5 gig Corsair Platinum Twinx XMS Dual Channel Ram, Latency 2-2-2-5 @ 2.8V - ATi Radeon x800XL 256mb AGP @ Stock Speeds - 6.8 Catalyst - SB Audigy 2 ZS Gamer LE 7.1 24-bit Audio Processor

11-03-2004, 08:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bucky Gamershell Grandpa Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cincinnati, OH, USA Posts: 5,714 Hellbux: 98,401	Murders occur every day, so we should legalize murder? __________________ Papajoe r0ckz3rz!!

11-03-2004, 08:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
mikeeegeee is on the 5th circle: Wrath & Sullenness Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,108 Hellbux: 15,792	I know I'm missing your point but, who wants to legalize murder? __________________ "Is that how they drive in Tiananmen Square bitch?!"

11-03-2004, 09:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
Bucky Gamershell Grandpa Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cincinnati, OH, USA Posts: 5,714 Hellbux: 98,401	Abortions will happen even if they are illegal, therefore, they should be legal. Murders happen everyday, even though they are illegal, therefore, we should legalize murder. It's the exact same logic. __________________ Papajoe r0ckz3rz!!

11-03-2004, 09:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
Silent Archer is on the 3rd circle: Gluttony Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 469 Hellbux: 7,159	Well.. im gona say no Comment... Politics bring out the Worst in people... and i wish to remain friends with Everybody.. __________________ - MSI 865G Neo2 - P4 Prescott 3.2Ghz @ 3.46Ghz 800Mhz FSB 1mb L2 Cache - 1.5 gig Corsair Platinum Twinx XMS Dual Channel Ram, Latency 2-2-2-5 @ 2.8V - ATi Radeon x800XL 256mb AGP @ Stock Speeds - 6.8 Catalyst - SB Audigy 2 ZS Gamer LE 7.1 24-bit Audio Processor

11-03-2004, 09:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
mikeeegeee is on the 5th circle: Wrath & Sullenness Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,108 Hellbux: 15,792	no one said you should be able to go and get one if you dont want a baby. There are definitely exceptions. __________________ "Is that how they drive in Tiananmen Square bitch?!"