Saddam Hussein captured

Originally posted by Greywolf@Dec 16 2003, 02:13 PM

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These are the numbers about Hiroshima ONLY

Anyway I hate having a dispute by googling up stuff...

A man once said "The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of one million - statistics" So if they were less than a million, they are not that many, are they?... How many people, died, you say, in the WTC?

I suggest the British should go and reclaim their rebelious colony, smack their asses and teach them some manners, namely how to play nice with the other children...

You are at it again.

From your source:

Using population records at the end of World War II, the municipal government also readjusted the estimated number of those who died in the bombing and its immediate aftermath up to the end of 1945 by 1,000 to 88,865.

You claimed that the US murdered "millions". Where is your source for that claim. Or is your position now that a million people give or take is the same thing?

And a European is saying that the US needs to learn how to play nice with others?!

You folks generated the 2 largest wars in the history of the globe within a single generation. Congratulations.

OK, I was wrong - it wasn't "millions" it was under a million, happy now? So since I made a mistake, it gives a total pardon to the US for doing it, is that so?

And mybe Saddam murered millions of his fellow countrymen but he was inside his country, damn it! So he invaded his neighbours? As if you never invaded anyone every country tried in one moment or the other in its history to take over the world... some of them - centuries ago, some of them recently... but they all lived through it an... matured... guess in your give-or-take 250 years of history you haven't had that chance to take on the world yet... up till now, that is.

And, yeah, Europe has seen many wars, but most of them we fought in our own backyard.

Anyway, I think I'll stop discussing this topic now, you've made your point and I've made mine. So it's another thing we have a difference of oppinions on - no big deal - not the first one, won't be the last, either.

Originally posted by Greywolf@Dec 16 2003, 02:44 PM
So since I made a mistake, it gives a total pardon to the US for doing it, is that so?

I didn't say that, in fact I have expressed no opinion on the matter one way or another.

Thanks for admitting your error. The end result is that hundreds of thousands of people died in a split second, exagerating the numbers is pointless.

I can't help noticing you still hadn't given an oppinion - you should go into politics, Bucky

And I should start googling before I post any numbers on this forum... I admit I had no idea of the real number so I just made an assumption

... this dosn't mean I back up on the other things I said ... or at least not untill you google up some convincing evidence I was wrong somewhere else ... and I mean comvincing

Originally posted by Greywolf@Dec 16 2003, 07:23 PM
comvincing

Well, I would take you up on that challenge if I only knew what the word comvincing was. :P

I hate to bring this back up but...... the A Bomb, in theory, saved more lives than it destroyed. An untold number of people both civilian and military would have perished had the US been forced to invade mainland Japan. Looking back at it I think anyone with common sense can see the bomb was the right decision. Also do not forget that before the first bomb was dropped the Japanese were warned.... they thought we were bluffing so bang there goes Hiroshima. After Hiroshima they were told we had seven more bombs (a bluff) and that we would use them unless they surrendered, they didn't so..... they died. Ultimately the very nature of war is that people are going to die, the choice to drop the Bomb was a choice between the lesser of two evils. It really sucks but that is the way it is.

Oh and BTW, right now I am reading War Is A Force That Gives Us Meaning, a book by Chris Hedges, a man who has been a war coorispondent for several networks for the past few decades. Anyway, he states that some historian somewere tallied it up and figured out that in all of recorded human history we have had only 29 years were a war wasn't happening somewhere in the world. The problem with war isn't a national thing its a human thing and it will always be here till one day we either all die or a large enough portion of us die off to were the remaining ones realise that there is another way. Even if they do stop fighting I can bet my left testicle that within 1 or 2 generations they will be warring with each other again. Bottom line is that war is human nature. End of story......

And if you like it are not we are a War loveing race

Originally posted by Bucky+Dec 17 2003, 12:31 AM-->