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Old 11-02-2004, 06:17 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:34 AM   #12 (permalink)
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OH really SEPHT so would you say then that alot of software right now takes advantage of 64 bit processors too??
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:47 AM   #13 (permalink)
 
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OH really SEPHT so would you say then that alot of software right now takes advantage of 64 bit processors too??
omg.. Your not giving me NEARLY enough credit.

Im probably one of(if not the) biggest advocate of the current unuse of 64 bit. Its true advantages(on linux).. but I also nearly more then anyone understand the ADVANTAGES of the amd64.. of which 64bit computing is just a tiny bit.

Hypertransport- A cheap parrell bus that allows fast connection between the components of the system, allowing for more general system bandwith.
Fast FSB- I belive it was at 1.6ghz.....(dual quad.)
and the biggest effect on Gaming...
The Intergrated On CPU memory controller- allows pretty fast, efficent, orginized, and quick access of ram(nearly half that of the intels) that allows game performance in the weakest AMD64 to beat out THE BEST Intels.

also the fact that AMD's running much cooler.. with its SoI(or is it Sio.. one of the 2) technology.. while intels preschot is running crazy hot.
AMD also isn't pushing BTX because they really don't need the standard change.. intels procs however would burn up without a change soon.
AMD's move to .09 micron just helps promote how they keep going in improvements.
PCI-X Amd is also taking their time with.. tests have shown there is no performance increase in moving to PCI-X over AGP.. so AMD is bidding their time

EDIT: O and just because I thought the above was poorly written...(bad day)
how about this

hell its about 135% ram speed on that high end Intel.. yet it STILL does worse....

and some more on it:
AMD is much less expensive.... up to 1000 bucks for the high end P4.. 500 for the mid range.. 200 for the low end..
AMDs- 150-200 low end. 250-350 mid end.. 400-700 high end..
And uhh.. they don't even go into the low end P4s do they? those aren't even competition...
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BIOS, im using an amd64 3200.
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:03 AM   #16 (permalink)
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SO sepht why? are you using an intel chip?? if amd is the king, i thought you were smarter than that.

oh and SPRIGGANX i don't see the amd 3200 on that little chart now do I.....

OH and SEPHT again i just read another fourm where you said that DDR2 has worse proformance than DDR400
it clearly doesn't show that here on this test, with intel anyway, cause thats what you were disscussing on the other thread
it was with intel.
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:22 AM   #18 (permalink)
 
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SO sepht why? are you using an intel chip?? if amd is the king, i thought you were smarter than that.

oh and SPRIGGANX i don't see the amd 3200 on that little chart now do I.....

OH and SEPHT again i just read another fourm where you said that DDR2 has worse proformance than DDR400
it clearly doesn't show that here on this test does it?
2 things before I respond to this... First to Kru: Damn right it is. Don't keep that around too long.. Cow will convince u to try to change my title to either Confusing or 'pure mean' as he puts it.

I use an intel because there was no such thing as AMD64 when I got this. However it seems you just accepted my entire post and arguement as fact.. accepting teh AMD64

If the 3200+ were on taht chart.. it would be lower then the EE.. but still way higher then its counterpart the 3.2E. (e is prescott, c or no letter is the northwood.)

Care to quote what I said there BIOS boy. I prefer quotes rather then rehashs.
If your going to use a move to a new mobo, take into account the margin of error, and change the 9xx chipset(if its even the same chipset) to use stuff it wasn't made for.. I think that 1FPS isn't really going to matter.. its in the margin of error, and also I wouldn't call it "clearly" better, I doubt u can see a 1fps difference when we are talking at 130-140FPS.

My stance on DDR2 vs DDR. Not worth it.. DDR2 is more expensive.. as for performance.. its inconclusive to say the least. DDR2 400 vs DDR400 should show the DDR ahead slightly or show them equal..

Your comparing DDR2-533mhz to DDR 400mhz. thats a 35% speed increase.. and a performance increase of less then 1%.. that 1% being in the margin of error for testing.. and the price difference? Corsair Unbuffered, non ecc.. DDR-400.. 1 gig.. 190 bucks. Corsair Unbufferend nonecc DDR2-533(as used in this benchmark.. <1% difference) 1gig 290 dollers. Also DDR2 has a CAS of 4.. while the DDR1 compared there is either a 2.5 or a 3. with all that.. why does it even matter?
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:32 AM   #19 (permalink)
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My stance on DDR2 vs DDR. Not worth it.. DDR2 is more expensive.. as for performance.. its inconclusive to say the least. DDR2 400 vs DDR400 should show the DDR ahead slightly or show them equal..
my stance:is amd64 really worth it RIGHT NOW!! because a good amd chip is alot more money than the intel i bought and i know that hardly anything takes advantage of it right ethier SO is it really worth it, i see you haven't upgraded yet.

p.s: don't brag about shit you do not have!
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:51 AM   #20 (permalink)
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don't listen to that tool sepht he talks shit to everybody, he thinks if you copy n paste a picture with some numbers on it hes right about everything, all you need to know is your cpu clearly over powers his sooooo
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