4 more years?

Originally posted by vishus_mind@Nov 4 2004, 12:08 AM
about bush sticking to what he says ..... he said ''i dont believe we can go into another country and tell them how to live'' then he went to war with iraq..... by going to war with iraq he hasnt made america or the world any safer ...... hes incited even more hatred against america ..... thier were no links with al quaeda an iraq it was all just made up... hell they even made asama bin laden out to be more powerful than he really is ... the guy doesnt command an army of extremists like people like to have you believe he was mainly just a funder for militants that made thier own plans and only came to him for money .......and sepht dont say such stupid things like they should just level wherever terrorists are ..... if their were terrorists in a church in america with civilians would you think they should just level it...... because their iraqis doesnt mean they arnt civilians an deserve the right to live ...... its because of things like that , that get the eastern world all worked up and want to kill americans and the british ...... we kill thier family they want to kill as many of us as they can

Looking at it wrong. If the US was occupied by China. and a bunch of christian extremists took a church, and started using citizans as cover while threatening china. why should they hesitate.

they are just using their own people as cover. We need the terrorists to loose the peoples support, which right now, they mostly have.

And anyways.. whatever happened to "if you harbor terrorists we will destory you.. if you help terrroirists we will kill you.." where is that from bush anymore?

the thing is terrorist wouldnt just loose support ...... more terrorists would be formed from the innocents killed' families

Originally posted by vishus_mind@Nov 4 2004, 12:54 AM
the thing is terrorist wouldnt just loose support ...... more terrorists would be formed from the innocents killed' families

you would need to be a little more political correct in doing it.

But we aren't being as aggressive as we should be in Iraq. over 20% already think Jihad ain't that bad of an Idea. 2-5% are activally trying to hurt the US troops.

Im not going to put thought into this right now.. but we need to be a little more aggressive and to the point in getting the people who help terrorists. and Bush said he would do that. But it seems never planed to and never will.

I was talking to a native from Iraq yesterday at a friend's house, and the guy still lives in Iraq . After all the complaining he said about America, he mentioned that Al Qaeda would pay innocent civilians 300 bucks to shoot RPG's at American humvees. Thats pretty said, I think we should get outta there.

Originally posted by Fycus@Nov 4 2004, 01:15 AM
I was talking to a native from Iraq yesterday at a friend's house, and the guy still lives in Iraq . After all the complaining he said about America, he mentioned that Al Qaeda would pay innocent civilians 300 bucks to shoot RPG's at American humvees. Thats pretty said, I think we should get outta there.

leave like we left Afgahnistan? hell Neither Afgh. nor Iraq are sovereign nations anymore.

Its sad. We ripped out the goverement and never imposed a new one. Afgahn. is dominated by warlords more so then the president. and Iraq, we don't even have control of about 1/3 of it. Its really becoming upsetting.

But how can we leave?

Bush Sr. never went into Iraq beacuse there was no viable exit stratagy. And their still isn't.

Originally posted by Sepht@Nov 4 2004, 08:26 AM
Bush Sr. never went into Iraq beacuse there was no viable exit stratagy. And their still isn't.

Bush Sr. never went into iraq?. The allies went in and left with the job half done and once the allies ( i say allies coz it was u.s,uk,france etc ) left, saddam kicked the crap out of the people who uprised against him when they thought the allies were coming, bush left them so they are probably unsure about trusting his son. Anyway my question, one of the key states was Ohio yeh? and both canidates were talking about more jobs there and better economy if they voted for either one, but they know it didn't improve when bush was in office so why vote for him again?. I mean we will never know if kerry would have Actually done anything there but we know bush won't. Plus bush is a illiterate F*&%. You can go on google and see how many words he's made up. Man its scary this guy has control to all those nukes...hes a complete NUT.

1st off .....i find it funny watching his speeches and seing how much interman he talks ...... terrorists never stop thinking how to harm our country.....and neither do we ....... thats a classic ..... try find some of the same kinda interman bush sr. has said in the past ...... thier both the same

and lastly ...... shorten your sig man ..... i have to scroll across the page to see what youve wrote

Yeh you saying bush is like his dad?.

Originally posted by Psycho Pigeon@Nov 4 2004, 02:13 AM
Bush Sr. never went into iraq?. The allies went in and left with the job half done and once the allies ( i say allies coz it was u.s,uk,france etc ) left, saddam kicked the crap out of the people who uprised against him when they thought the allies were coming, bush left them so they are probably unsure about trusting his son. Anyway my question, one of the key states was Ohio yeh? and both canidates were talking about more jobs there and better economy if they voted for either one, but they know it didn't improve when bush was in office so why vote for him again?. I mean we will never know if kerry would have Actually done anything there but we know bush won't. Plus bush is a illiterate F*&%. You can go on google and see how many words he's made up. Man its scary this guy has control to all those nukes...hes a complete NUT.

I meant to say Bush Sr never went Deep into and occupied Iraq. They took back Kuwait and didn't progress too far into the counrtry(let alone all the way into baghdad) because they couldn't go into Iraq and viably leave.

Same way neither canidate really had a plan to leave Iraq.

Yeh sorry i thought you mean't they didnt go in at all. nm. But he did leave the iraqi people when they started uprising against saddam.