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11-04-2004, 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by Bucky@Nov 4 2004, 03:18 AM
[edit] grabbed the wrong post to quote, but you know which one I'm answering. ;)
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At this point.. as long as its not me.. im so sandpapering happy.
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11-04-2004, 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Bucky+Nov 4 2004, 05:18 AM-->| QUOTE (Bucky @ Nov 4 2004, 05:18 AM) | Ok, I'll grant you that you know a bit more than the average Canook about US politics, which probably raises questions of it's own.
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No, I didn't read Kerry's plan for a massive government run health care plan, I rejected the idea out of hand. I want less government involvement in my life, not more. Kerry and his running mate were about big government.[/b]
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Okay, so why would you be able to pass a judgement on something you didn't even bother to read and say that Bush's plan is better? Alas, why would you say that we, foreigners, don't know anything about your politics and internal affairs if we, in fact, bother to read the stuff you don't? You know, it might sound almost ridiculous, if it wasn't true, which makes it kind of sad... But the average Canook knows much more about USA than the average Yankee does... That would include pretty much everything, from politics, to history, to geography.
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Btw, I not only got my $400, I pay less taxes now. Period.
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For how long? That was my question all along. Don't forget that the latest tax cut bill was signed by Mr. Bush on a pre-election rally, in front of his supporters -- not in the White House or the Senate... That just shows you what it really was - a political trick, measure reserved especially for election times... Mark my words, it won't last long. Actually I can bet you $100 right now, shall you accept it, that you should expect tax rollbacks by the end of next year... It will be especially ironic because the Republicans' smear-attack machine accented Kerry's plans for certain tax rollbacks as "bad" and "evil", regardless that they'll be forced to do the same thing themselves...
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Originally posted by -Bucky@Nov 4 2004, 05:18 AM
First, Bush allowed for pre-existing stem cells to be used in research, bet denied federal funding for any stem cells collected from that point forward. Second, one state allowing that to continue doesn't mean that MY tax dollars should go toward allowing aborted fetuses to be used for research as if they are some kind of left over lab rat. Third, Reeves would have died regardless of whether a trillion dollars was devoted to stem cell research. That stuff is over the horizon and theoretical at this point.
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First, what difference does it make if it's today that they'll have nothing to work with, or tomorrow? The ban *is* in place. *sarcasm on* Second, of course, your tax dollars are much better off being invested in Bush's Mars exploration program instead of long-term medical research that could greatly benefit your nation in the future... I mean hey, maybe there actually are little green men living on Mars, and finding them is much more important than saving lives!  *sarcasm off*. Third, it wouldn't be theoretical if it was practiced, no? In the sense of governmental support and funding for the program... And how can you predict the future with "ifs" and "would's"? All I know is that more could've been done for him, but it wasn't. Would it save him? I don't know... But trying wouldn't hurt.
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Originally posted by -Bucky@Nov 4 2004, 05:18 AM
You keep raising the issue of a weakening dollar. That is economically good for the US. A strong dollar means that foreigners have to spend more of their money to get US dollars, making tourism and imports more expensive. Sorry, but a devalued Dollar is a good thing, not bad.
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Once again, you're seeing the half full cup, and not the half empty. Yes, now more goods are being bought by other countries from the USA. But there's less goods coming in, since the dollar's buying potential is much lower than it was before. And considering that USA is a country that heavily depends on imports (how about a concrete example: oil?), it's not such a great thing. As for tourism... Among all this almost worldwide animosity towards America's foreign policy and the constant domestic terror threat that you're living in, who do you think wants to go down to USA for tourism? Certainly not foreigners... Of course, you probably don't need us down in USA anyway, but it was you who had to mention tourism. And because of this same terror threat a lot of Americans would rather go overseas, where the Homeland Security danger meter is not "elevated", and where they're getting ripped off nowadays (I saw an American couple next to a downtown currency exchange bureau a few weeks ago lamenting about how their dollars were worth so much more only a few years ago...).
...sorry Bucky, economics was one of my strongest subjects in college, so trying to prove me wrong here will be quite troublesome for you
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11-04-2004, 10:15 AM
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Bush is a Fu***n nut and he will lead us all in to WWIII , and there isn't jack that anybody can do to stop him. 
Looks like Iran will be next on Bush's world "Clean Up" list. :rant:
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11-04-2004, 11:35 AM
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Freaking liberals speak out of their butts. Why don't u guys gain some knowledge before barfing out these obsurd statements of WWIII and the U.S. attacking other countries. If Kerry was elected, do you think all of the problems would magically go away the second he won? No. You are still dumb. Kerry's ideals are very similar to those of Bush's, but many people disagreed with his standpoints on civil rights. That is why he lost the election. No BS on how he wasn't fairly supported by the democrats, because that is ur guys' fault for not voting. Freaking immigrants ruin the balance of our election anyways, their opinions don't matter. Harsh but true, their viewpoints are based on their low income and living habits. Unfortunately, if they stayed in their home country, they would have been fine and wouldn't complain. Once they step foot in American soil they are forced to complain about how they actually have to start working. Oh no! I have to try hard to get money! IF statements also bother me. "IF Kerry took Ohio, then he would win". Shut the fsk up! Kerry didn't win Ohio, so stop mentioning the "if's" and "but's". The problem with liberals is they have to spew their twisted views upon the conservatives while the conservatives do nothing. I almost wish Kerry would win so the liberals would shut the hell up. Kerry lost and thats all there is to it. Don't get a heart attack over it, its not like Kerry would do a better job anyways.
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11-04-2004, 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by Fycus@Nov 4 2004, 05:35 AM
Freaking liberals speak out of their butts. Why don't u guys gain some knowledge before barfing out these obsurd statements of WWIII and the U.S. attacking other countries. If Kerry was elected, do you think all of the problems would magically go away the second he won? No. You are still dumb. Kerry's ideals are very similar to those of Bush's, but many people disagreed with his standpoints on civil rights. That is why he lost the election. No BS on how he wasn't fairly supported by the democrats, because that is ur guys' fault for not voting. Freaking immigrants ruin the balance of our election anyways, their opinions don't matter. Harsh but true, their viewpoints are based on their low income and living habits. Unfortunately, if they stayed in their home country, they would have been fine and wouldn't complain. Once they step foot in American soil they are forced to complain about how they actually have to start working. Oh no! I have to try hard to get money! IF statements also bother me. "IF Kerry took Ohio, then he would win". Shut the fsk up! Kerry didn't win Ohio, so stop mentioning the "if's" and "but's". The problem with liberals is they have to spew their twisted views upon the conservatives while the conservatives do nothing. I almost wish Kerry would win so the liberals would shut the hell up. Kerry lost and thats all there is to it. Don't get a heart attack over it, its not like Kerry would do a better job anyways.
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Party lines are being smeared.
I am sick of all Democrats, Left Wingers, and Liberals being 1 catagory. (Reb. RIght. Conserve on the other hand) thats not how it works!!.
Im a conservative myself, however I've support the democrats in the last 2 elections.
mostly beacuse im sick of Christian conservatives. I support conservative thought in a lot of areas(affimative action, aggressiveness factor, supporting capitalism), however I am sick of convervatives being bible-humpers. How hard is it to realize? this isn't a country for religon to set any base in goverment. This country was founded otherwise. If you want a religon based country. move to armenia.
This interman on WW3 is just BS.
1 thing I am sick of is liberals thinking Iraq will disappear as an issue if Kerry wins. They seem to think countries will come help just because the US has a new president. That would not have happened. Kerry still has the same interman to worry about, he still has IRaq to worry about(to which liberals always stop the discussion with "Bush put us there" ). Neither Bush or Kerry have a plan to leave Iraq. Kerry won't recive magical help(or does he have a miricle plan, his plan was the same as bushs) and bush has no other plan then to wait there until the Iraq goverment is powerful(with the world watching, they need to make sure it works.. and no one knows how long it'll take)
His standings on civil rights? abortion and gay marridge? Support whatever the courts say and the same thing as bush? no no thats not why he lost. He lost beacuse the republicans sold him as a flip flopping, gay loving, bible banning liberal.
He WASN'T supported by the democrats. Kerry tried to act all conservative and try to win over a few republicans, but in doing so he lost support of the democrats(something like 87% of democrats voted for Kerry, while 96% of Reb.s voted for bush) Reb.s finally got off their hick asses and voted because they couldn't stand gay marridge, while the liberals sat around smoking their pot saying "vote or die bitch"
Im going to assume your trying to refer to me somehow. all these if statements all lead to : kerry is and did sandpaper up. But, the democrats are usally sore losers and im suprised they didn't bitch and whine this one to the end.
Id have to say conservatives try to impose their views as laws, while liberals just bitch and whine, usally including and concluding with a statemnt similar to "its not fair now"(their whole base for affirmative action, their whole base for stem cells, etc.)
If the supreme court voted they would have voted for kerry, just to get the liberals to shut up. HOWEVER I think that a lot of the southern hicks would complain just as much. and Just to see if conservatives really do bitch that much if their canidate loses by a margin.. I wanted Kerry to win.
Kerry lost. And If you rub that in a liberals face. they will start bitching and moaning so much. Just try it.
VOting for kerry isn't something you do because he would be a better president, its obvious he wouldn't have been. You do it to get back and watch how the conseratives bitch, and watch how the liberals prance around. And you do it because he was a better canidate. A better canidate yes, a better president, not really. However.. that is too debatable to say..
Anyway... Bush won. And I am completely convinced. This nation has more hicks, and weak minded people then I imagined. O well. Bacon For President '04
O yeh fycus.. I seem to remember.. you supporting kerry yourself. lol.
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11-04-2004, 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Fycus@Nov 4 2004, 01:35 PM
Freaking liberals speak out of their butts. Why don't u guys gain some knowledge before barfing out these obsurd statements of WWIII and the U.S. attacking other countries. If Kerry was elected, do you think all of the problems would magically go away the second he won? No. You are still dumb. Kerry's ideals are very similar to those of Bush's, but many people disagreed with his standpoints on civil rights. That is why he lost the election. No BS on how he wasn't fairly supported by the democrats, because that is ur guys' fault for not voting. Freaking immigrants ruin the balance of our election anyways, their opinions don't matter. Harsh but true, their viewpoints are based on their low income and living habits. Unfortunately, if they stayed in their home country, they would have been fine and wouldn't complain. Once they step foot in American soil they are forced to complain about how they actually have to start working. Oh no! I have to try hard to get money! IF statements also bother me. "IF Kerry took Ohio, then he would win". Shut the fsk up! Kerry didn't win Ohio, so stop mentioning the "if's" and "but's". The problem with liberals is they have to spew their twisted views upon the conservatives while the conservatives do nothing. I almost wish Kerry would win so the liberals would shut the hell up. Kerry lost and thats all there is to it. Don't get a heart attack over it, its not like Kerry would do a better job anyways.
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It's not like he could do a F****n' worse job 
Between him and Blair we have a right pair of C**K suckers leading this world
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11-04-2004, 05:10 PM
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........... errr i tryed to see how it works and i dunno how it works. All i know is that the attack on 9-11 was a attack that no one knew how to anwser it. The best thing to do was to build this virtual massive firewall surounding the usa. << thats offcource not possible so they had to respond ....somehow. So they did and from that moment on things went wrong. Taking a job as the president of the usa is on my believe the hardest job in the world, i mean look at it!? I dont blame anyone anymore no blair no bush. I think we all have a major problem in this wordl and it aint only iraq or osama.
I think we have this massive problems called humans, i dont give a sjit about if ya black white yellow or pink, all i see is that some people have enough hate to other people to do things like 9-11. Im really worried because thats just the beginning. The way things go right know, it doesnt matter who is the president because he cant pull back and the enemy wont stop either....
So bush, i hope you make some good 4 years for human kind, tho i think its a mission impossible no mather who's the president.
greetz,
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11-04-2004, 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Dennis S.@Nov 4 2004, 07:00 AM
That's always a nice way to butt out of a losing argument... Just show your opponent that he's not worthy of your time .
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Usually is the case. In this situation, it's me walking away from a pointless discussion and just being sick of these same runaround debates.
Bush won the election. Like it, love it, or lump it. Arguing about it with someone who has 0 say in our elections is even more pointless than a typical political argument. I'm sick of all of the arguments. We've been bombarded with this crap for a year now, and I'm not about to start fresh.
So, call it a "win" if you like.
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Furthermore, the bit about "11 states passed bans on same-sex marriage" has nothing to do with Bush or Kerry... Your own constitution defines a marriage as a union between a man and a woman, so this vote was completely meaningless....
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