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Old 02-10-2006, 06:51 PM   #41 (permalink)
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well perhaps they could deliver a nuke then what, everybody knows israel has a couple of 100 warheads, the iran-d00ds know that. So then what?
There isn't much glory for ya when ur whole country is nuked by the enemy.
It depends, not everyone thinks as rationally as that.
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Old 02-10-2006, 07:35 PM   #42 (permalink)
 
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My finger in the pie.

The vast majority of Muslims would have liked to have sorted this whole mess in a civilised manner. Since the London bombings we have worked hard to repair the damage to both communities here in the UK. The printing of these cartoons hasn`t helped. I believe in freedom of speech, but when European governments are forever touting this new catchword "Multicultural Society" we should show some respect for each others religious laws and beliefs.
I have a few Muslim friends, and they have expressed dismay and sadness that the Muslims are being blamed for the senseless violence by the "Extremists" I idolise my Muslim friends for staying calm and collected about it. The Extremists are waging a war of hate against Isreal, The West and Christianity and they are being funded and supported morally by their own governments: Syria, Palestine and Iran to name a few.

As a footnote: My local paper carried an article about a school headmistress who wants to ban Hot-Cross buns because she doesn`t think they fit into a "Multicultural Society". A district councillor wanted to ban Christmas lights in towns because "..they don`t fit into a Multicultural Society". How the hell can you have a "Multicultural Society" when you`re stopping the host nation from practicing their religious ceremonies. :Oo:
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Old 02-12-2006, 08:15 AM   #43 (permalink)
 
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personally i've seen the cartoons they arent so bad. people just need to learn that this sort of shit happens in the world and they cant get so bent out of shape about it.....also im wondering y muslims are pointing fingers at america....hello? denmark is in europe its not the 51st state in the U.S
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Old 02-12-2006, 10:53 AM   #44 (permalink)
 
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What makes me laugh is , whatever country pisses them off and they have a protest, theres always someone there with an anti israel sign, or a picture of bush, wheather its american, dutch, france, eskimoes
man.... BUILD A BRIDGE , get over it.
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Old 02-12-2006, 03:33 PM   #46 (permalink)
 
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Can we, please lay the "We Jews were hunted during WWII and now the world owes us big time" shit aside? Talking about geting over something... BTW I'm not American, I come from a country which saved its jews in WWII (Bulgaria). I have a friend from my cildhood whose family moved to Israel and he did his military service there. I have great respect for your army. It might as well be the best trained army in the world (I wish girls in Bulgaria had to go through military training too ) But the fact is: you guys are in the middle of the arabic world. They could come with a stone and a stick each and they'd keep coming long after you are out of bullets. The biggest guarant of Israili souvereignity is the US - not your army (nukes or no nukes).
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that metallica album springs to mind "kill em all" job done :dennis:
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:41 AM   #48 (permalink)
 
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I don't think so. Violence has a funny way on whiplashing back to you. If all this money shot and launched against the enemy had been put to use in educating them, we wouldn't have to worry too much about terrorism now. Ignorance, violence and hate is what create terrorists.

If I were a dumbass low-life illiteral fanatic guy and your bombs or soldiers killed my family, I'd suicide-bomb your asses too.

Look at how muslims' stoning and burning embassies now makes us all love them better.
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Old 02-13-2006, 07:23 AM   #49 (permalink)
 
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"We Jews were hunted during WWII and now the world owes us big time" (Bulgaria). I have a friend from my cildhood whose family moved to Israel and he did his military service there. I have great respect for your army. It might as well be the best trained army in the world (I wish girls in Bulgaria had to go through military training too ) But the fact is: you guys are in the middle of the arabic world. They could come with a stone and a stick each and they'd keep coming long after you are out of bullets. The biggest guarant of Israili souvereignity is the US - not your army (nukes or no nukes).
Whats your problem? first no one here said anything about the " world owes us big time"

"The biggest guarante of Israili souvereignity is the US " BS

what part of israel can defend it self, didnt you understand in my last post
we dont need no us, but we will take any help they give us .

in all the wars israel has had, ive never seen 1 yank soilder here
in fact it was the jews that signed up with the british to help them!! in ww2 :bucky!:

OK now Bulgaria: o yes you did help the jews in fact you eventual alliance with Nazi Germany. As part of this alliance deported 20,000 Jews from Thrace and Macedonia, areas then under Bulgarian rule, to German concentration camps.
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In 1943, under pressure from the Third Reich, the Bulgarian Parliament passed a deportation order for the Jews in Bulgaria proper
but all segments of Bulgarian society – the general population, the press, the intelligentsia, key members of Parliament, the Church, Bishop Boris Kharalampiev and the king – protested, causing the government to rescind the deportation order. Not a single Bulgarian Jew was deported
also thanks to , a new government in 1944 which repealed all anti-Jewish legislation and the Russians invaded Bulgaria and installed a Communist government. (the lesser of the 2 evils) the JDC helped Bulgaria’s 48,000 Jews

Greywolf..... I know about your history, what u did & didnt do. im not a 16 year old kid, ive been around
but i guess we have to disagree. i think the only thing that will save Israel is GOD. that will or not be proven in the future.
Lets wait and see.
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Old 02-13-2006, 09:21 AM   #50 (permalink)
 
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True... Bulgaria was an ally of Germany. Bulgaria also switched sides the moment Germany invaded Russia. We have always had great relations with Russia... the only time they "invaded" us was when they came to drive the turks away and help us restore our country. Anyways we like our jews just as much as we like any Bulgarian citizen.

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... whatever country pisses them off and they have a protest, theres always someone there with an anti israel sign...
This is what I meant with "We Jews were hunted during WWII and now the world owes us big time". OK you didn't go to that extent, but you just reminded me of all those times jews accuse people of antisemitism and shit. It starts to look like the racist stuff black people are pulling off in the US... they themselves being the biggest racists of all. I've lived in Germany for 2 years and I've seen quite a few jews acting like pinched old virgins whenever someone hints to their jewish background.

Israel can defend itself? What part of "The arabs would overrun you if they had the chance" didn't YOU understand? I mean it's one thing being proud of your country and your military power, and another thing learning to look the truth in the eye. (Hint - Check the population numbers). And the arabs don't have much love for you anyaways... not since you occupied Palestine in 1967... and especially not after you shot an old man in a wheelchair with a missile in front of a mosque.

Only God can save Israel? This is my God also and I have trust in Him (This is also the Muslims' God but that's a different story), but how about not making him have to "save" Israel but trying to find a way to live with your neighbours in peace, so that you are not threatened at all...

OK let's not make this a pro-/anti- semitist discussion, I don't want to take part in one, cause I simply don't know which side to take.
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