Vista SP1 update might screw up your sys

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Microsoft hurriedly pulls one bad prerequisite update which caused a world of trouble for some Microsoft users

Microsoft rolled out it Windows Vista Service Pack 1 to select customers recently. The SP1 update drew mixed reviews according to initial testers. However, while SP1 is relatively stable, it pulls in Windows Updates and one particular prerequisite update is giving people serious problems.

Microsoft rolled out three prerequisite updates last week through Windows Update to prepare users computers computers for Windows Vista SP1. If customers tried to install Vista SP1 without the update, the SP1 install process would simply go and grab the update.

One of these updates, KB937287, caused some serious issues among some users. As Vista SP1 automatically grabs this update, some users experienced side effects during the SP1 installation process.

During the Vista SP1 installation process, some unfortunate users report their computer gets stuck on the third step -- the Windows Update step. Their installation process read, "Configuring updates: stage 3 of 3 - 0% complete" according to one user, and then the system reboots. After rebooting the installation process resumes -- then the computer reboots again. The computer becomes frozen in an unbootable loop. Numerous users on the Microsoft forums have reported having the same problem. Other users have reported that their computer simply would not boot properly.

Exactly how widespread the problem is at the time is unknown. Microsoft is trying to look into what is causing this unrecoverable crash. In the meantime they have pulled the prerequisite update.

For afflicted users, who already received the update, the only solution is to reboot their computers, boot from their original Vista disk and do a system restore to restore their computer to a state several days prior. Users may have to choose multiple restore points to find a working one, if any work at all. Some users report finding working restore points after several tries. However, users must then turn off Windows automatic update or the problem may recommence.

Some users have reported hardware and hard disk problems after restoration.

Many mistakenly labeled the problem as an issue caused directly by Vista SP1. While SP1 did inadvertently trigger the problem, it was the prerequisite update for Vista SP1 that raised havoc on users' machines. Microsoft has responded quickly, acknowledging this problem, and hopes to fix the update.

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Good thing my desktop sys (with vista installed) died two days ago. Oh wait nevermind

[Nxs]

Just another reason why you should avoid Vista like $2 hooker! More viruses than you really wanted to deal with

[AKADeadly]

Updater installed something and now my USB drivers keep going on and off, and iphone wont connect, or even charge

[ashgray2]

When I bought my computer it has a Windows Vista installed on it. But the performance of the Windows Vista is not good enough for my system development. So I decided to downgrade it to Windows XP SP2. I heard from my friends and reading from the internet Windows Vista is not a stable a Windows XP SP2.

[Slaymate]

There's nothing wrong with Vista. Your reading old, outdated material.

[Richard_Rahl]

Originally Posted by ashgray2

When I bought my computer it has a Windows Vista installed on it. But the performance of the Windows Vista is not good enough for my system development. So I decided to downgrade it to Windows XP SP2. I heard from my friends and reading from the internet Windows Vista is not a stable a Windows XP SP2.

If your developing and need a stable environment, then go for openSUSE.

@ Slay: there is indeed not much wrong with vista. Except for the fact that is much more demanding than other OSes (do not forget that an OS should be little more than a "framework" for your applications). And the influence of the user on the looks and workings should have been bigger. I am the boss, not the pc. And he's developing so then he needs either XP or any form of Linux.

(sorry for reviving an old thread)

[Slaymate]

Originally Posted by Richard_Rahl

Except for the fact that is much more demanding than other OSes (do not forget that an OS should be little more than a "framework" for your applications).

And Win98 was more demanding than Win95, WinXP was more demanding than Win98. And Vista and Win7 are more demanding than WinXP. Nothing new or different is happening. As hardware gets more advanced so does the software to utilize it.

I'm just tired of hearing people with crappy systems complain. Once again it's nothing new or different. People said the same thing going from Win98 to WinXP.

[Richard_Rahl]

Originally Posted by Slaymate

And Win98 was more demanding than Win95, WinXP was more demanding than Win98. And Vista and Win7 are more demanding than WinXP. Nothing new or different is happening. As hardware gets more advanced so does the software to utilize it.

I'm just tired of hearing people with crappy systems complain. Once again it's nothing new or different. People said the same thing going from Win98 to WinXP.

Linux can do all that Vista does. Only way faster and at lower costs*.

Despite all the make-up, Vista is a stiff old granny while the concurence is an agile athlete. Comparing those with cars: Vista feels like a 1994 Buick Park Avenue, openSUSE like a Ford GT.

What demands at least a Turion X2 (or any comparable Intel cpu) and GeForce 8400 (or comp. ATI) to run a bit reasonably in case of Vista, can be done with an old Athlon64/pentuim 4 and a Geforce 6200 in case of Linux. So my three-year-old pc with openSUSE runs as good as Vista is running on my laptop. While almost all desktop effects are enabled (only things like wobbly windows are off) and the hardware was not even state-of-the-art when it was still new. Yet, nothing of that OS feels like it is outdated (Linux users are regularly treated with a revised kernel etc.) while Vista (under the hood that is) is little more advanced then Windows 2000/XP.

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*OS + innovative GUI (can be replaced if you dislike it) + elaborate office suite + decent Firewall + some handy little applications, absolutely free. Vista: OS with integrated crap GUI (wich cannot be replaced by an alternative GUI) + firewall that does not deserve that name + a very few handy apps that are mostly being replaced by third-party stuff. For about 100 bucks or even more.

[Slaymate]

HaHaHa. Keep wishing. If Linux could do what Vista does, or WinXP, then no one would use a Windows PC.

I've got nothing against Linux, it has it's place. It's just not in the same class as Windows.

[Richard_Rahl]

Originally Posted by Slaymate

HaHaHa. Keep wishing. If Linux could do what Vista does, or WinXP, then no one would use a Windows PC.

It is not that simple, people often don't like change. So they rather stick with Windows, even when they don't need programs that aren't cross-platform. And the common user ("Joe Sixpack") usually only knows Windows and Mac OS X.

You only can't run certain programs because they are build for Windows or Mac OS X, not because of limits of the OS itself (to be clear: I do not talk about Ubuntu, DSL, Puppy Linux etc., but the "real" stuff like e.g. openSUSE).
The things like Window previews etc. are available in Linux for already a couple of years. Without being so demanding in a system load point of view.

And technicallay it is indeed in a different class, a higher one that is. Just take a look at the way OSes running on the Linux kernel are structured.

And you don't have to defragment the system regularly, nor manually clear temporary files left behind (except the web browser history, just like in Windows).

I know you don't have anything against Linux, but still you think to much "Halleluja" whn MS comes with another OS that looks better, but demands a lot too much for the things it is doing and contains the same technical failures as all the previous.